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Jimmy Carter’s Legacy and Navigating Immigration and Jobs in Modern America
Welcome to the Darrell McLean Show. I'm your host, darrell McLean. Independent media that won't reinforce tribalism. We have one planet. Nobody is leaving, so let us reason together. I actually recorded a show on yesterday for you guys, but, being to the horrors of technology, you won't be hearing it. At any rate, this is episode 438.
Speaker 1:Welcome to the new year. Let's get into the show. The former president of the United States, jimmy Carter, has passed away on Sunday at the age of 100. Now, the fascinating thing about Jimmy Carter was that officially made him the longest living president. Fun fact, because Jimmy Carter was America's longest living president. Dying at the age of 100 means the country is actually only 148 years older than Jimmy Carter 148 years older than Jimmy Carter. America is still a very young country and, as we go into the new year, pray that the country's best years have yet to come. We're going to talk about a little bit about the death of Jimmy Carter today, which is some of the tributes, and we're going to talk about the glowing, the growing tension that has been bubbling as H-1B visas. Let's get into the show From now.
Speaker 2:100 years from now what do you want your legacy to be?
Speaker 3:When Jimmy Carter was sworn in as the president of the United States in 1977, the nation was still reeling from a period of political upheaval.
Speaker 4:I came along at a time when Americans still remembered painfully the lies told and the debacle of Watergate. I was outside Washington, I was not stigmatized by the mistakes that had been made in those previous years and I brought a fresh face of a peanut farmer, a working man who's for never to tell a lie or make a misleading statement. Jimmy Carter from Georgia, I hope to be the next president.
Speaker 3:When we sat down with President Carter in 2006, he laid out his vision for America's role in the future and his concerns about missteps in the post-9-11 world.
Speaker 4:The announcement and practice of preemptive war, the complete abandonment of all the nuclear arms control agreements that were reached. They claim, in effect, that prisoners could be mistreated or tortured or deprived of habeas corpus. These are some of the things that I think has caused a deterioration in our country's basic stature and integrity. I would like to see our country be the champion of human rights and every American embassy looked upon as a haven for those who suffer from human rights abuse. I'd like to see our country be the most generous on earth.
Speaker 1:Who suffer from human rights abuse. I'd like to see our country be the most generous on earth. Jimmy Carter was born in 1924 and died in, obviously, 2024. He was always on the precipice of thinking about the future, and that brings you in alignment, of course, with a lot of controversy if people are stuck in the past and may not actually agree with the steps that you think are going to bring upon the future. We're going to talk about at the end, some of the amazing things that he did, including simple things like that the media made a controversy, as they are known to do.
Speaker 1:He turned down the thermostats in the White House to 65 degrees because he really believed in climate change, and he was the president that put on a sweater and had the entire press wearing sweaters versus blasting the heat. Uh. He wrote a book post-presidency uh, called the uh Palestine peace, not apartheid, and he tried to. And this was back in 2007 when he went on the show Democracy Now to speak with the host, amy Goodman, about the Israel and Palestinian conflict. The book where he somewhat if you look at what we're going through now he pre-warns about what would happen if we did not solve this problem. He was a sitting president, who, years later, observed what was going on because of, of course, during his presidency, there was a lot of peace talks, etc. And this is what he had to say.
Speaker 5:Why don't Americans know what you have seen?
Speaker 4:Americans don't want to know, and many Israelis don't want to know what is going on inside Palestine. It's a terrible human rights persecution that far transcends what any outsider would imagine, and there are powerful political forces in America that prevents any objective analysis of the problem in the Holy Land. I think it's accurate to say that not a single member of Congress with whom I'm familiar would possibly speak out and call for Israel to withdraw to their legal boundaries or to publicize the plight of the Palestinians or even to call publicly and repeatedly for Again.
Speaker 1:You can go watch that interview in its entirety Jimmy Carter. While remembered for his humanitarian work and diplomacy, carter's legacy also includes his fearless critique of the Israelis' occupation of Palestine. As a Nobel Peace Prize laureate, carter was one of the first US presidents to publicly denounce the abuse of Palestinians and to call for Palestinian rights, warning America about the powerful force is preventing honest discussion about Israel. Americans don't want to know what's happening there, he once said, referencing the media and the political establishments in America shielding the American public from the truth. Carter's advocacy for peace extended beyond words. He pushed against apartheid policies in the region, even as he faced backlash for calling it as he saw it. His commitment to truth and justice set him apart in a political landscape often denied and defined by the silence on these issues. As the world mourns a humanitarian and peace advocate's, it is worth revisiting his courage of speaking out for those whose voices have been silenced by the American media and by the American foreign policy establishment.
Speaker 4:They're occupied by two powers. They're now completely separated. The Palestinians can't even ride on the same roads that the Israelis have created or built in Palestinian territory. The Israelis never see a Palestinian, except the Israeli soldiers. The Palestinians never see an Israeli except in the distance, except the Israeli soldiers. So within Palestinian territory they're absolutely and totally separated much worse than they were in South Africa, by the way. And the other thing is the other. Definition of apartheid is one side domin, and the other thing is the other. Definition of apartheid is one side dominates the other, and the Israelis completely dominate the life of the Palestinian people.
Speaker 5:Why don't Americans know what you have seen?
Speaker 4:Americans don't want to know, and many Israelis don't want to know what is going on inside Palestine. It's a terrible human rights persecution that far transcends what any outsider would imagine, and there are powerful political forces in America that prevents any objective analysis of the problem in the Holy Land. I think it's accurate to say that not a single member of Congress with which I'm, with whom I'm familiar, would possibly speak out and call for Israel to withdraw to their legal boundaries or to publicize the plight of the Palestinians, or even to call publicly and repeatedly for good faith peace talks. There hadn't been a day of peace talks now in more than seven years. So this is a taboo subject and I would say that if any member of Congress did speak out as I've just described, they would probably not be back into Congress.
Speaker 1:the next term. Now, of course, that was back in 2007 when Jimmy Carter said those things. When Jimmy Carter said those things, he in his 2002 Nobel Prize speech, when he won the Nobel Peace Prize, he said this very true and prescient quote we will not learn how to live together in peace by killing each other's children. We will not learn how to live together in peace by killing each other's children. And when you look at all the conversations that happened these past few years when the new Israeli-Palestinian conflict iteration popped up this time, see if we can go back to 2007 and juxtapose what we saw and see was President Carter's correct. Look at the powerful lobby, aipac, and how it did everything it could to silence people in Congress who criticize not people but the policies of a country. And look at politicians like Cori Bush, et cetera, who you can go. Look at the financials, and they were heavily spent against by AIPAC, simply because they were not sufficiently pro-Israel or because they had made pro-Palestinian comments comments.
Speaker 4:Governor Reagan, as a matter of fact, began his political career campaigning around this nation against Medicare. Now we have an opportunity to move toward national health insurance with an emphasis on the prevention of disease. An emphasis on outpatient care, not inpatient care. An emphasis on hospital cost containment to hold down the cost of hospital care for those who are ill. An emphasis on catastrophic health insurance so that if a family is threatened with being wiped out economically because of a very high medical bill, then the insurance would help pay for it. These are the kind of elements of a national health insurance important to the American people. Governor Reagan again, typically, is against such a proposal.
Speaker 1:There was a snippet from the debate between Jimmy Carter and former President Ronald Reagan where, even though he lost that election that re-election, I should say he already was trying to get Americans on the path to have a universal health care. He, even back then, was talking about the insurance companies and their poor behavior.
Speaker 5:Oh my gosh, he was so unique A peanut farmer from Plains, georgia. He won the presidency, I think, because he was the un-Nixon. We'd just gone through Watergate. Jimmy Carter said I'll never lie to you, over and over and over.
Speaker 4:People think that he was unsuccessful, but he passed more than most presidents do in two terms, in one term I had the best batting average in the Congress in recent history of any president except for Lyndon Johnson.
Speaker 5:He saved every hostage that was held in Iran. He passed landmark legislation, big things like energy policy and giving back the Panama Canal, and he put solar panels on the roof of the White House back then. I think he's most proud of the fact that there was peace for the four years that he was president.
Speaker 4:We never fired a bullet, we never dropped a bomb, we never launched a missile.
Speaker 5:I think he thought he was a great president. President Carter's lasting legacy comes out of his post-presidency. No one would disagree that he's one of the great post-presidents we've ever had. He devoted himself to poor people. He built houses for poor people. He spent his life trying to get rid of certain diseases in Africa that were killing people unnecessarily. He won the Nobel Peace Prize not when he was president, but after he died, knowing that he had lived a good life and that he did wonderful things when he was president. But after he died, knowing that he had lived a good life and that he did wonderful things when he was president.
Speaker 1:What you just heard was commentary from Leslie Stahl, as she reflected on you to summarize the life of somebody who lived so long.
Speaker 4:A lot of us do good acts, but sometimes we don't go above and beyond what's expected of a human being. We don't do a transcendent thing expected of a human being. We don't do a transcendent thing. We don't analyze our own lives to see what can I do? That's above and beyond the call of duty as a mother or as a father or as a grandfather like me. What is it that is precious in memory? And the main point is that these are the simplest things in life. They're the relationship between one person and another person. It's not something that gets your name in the paper or makes you, you know, exalted, or makes you money. It's the kind of thing that 20 or 40 years later, you still remember as a precious experience.
Speaker 5:How do you want to be remembered?
Speaker 4:Well, that's uh, with my family. I hope I could be remembered by as a good great grandfather and a good grandfather and a good father my wife. I hope I can be remembered as a good great-grandfather and a good grandfather and a good father my wife. I hope I can be remembered as a good husband, but in politics, as a champion of peace and human rights. I was lucky enough to keep our country at peace for the four years that I served and we were, I think, looked upon as a champion of human rights then. So that's the two things I guess, politically speaking, I'm proud of.
Speaker 1:We're going to end this segment on the former president, jimmy Carter, with just a few snips of his general speeches most memorable, I should say, and because everybody knows I'm an economic essentialist, it's what I think about the most. I'm going to say this last quote that I always thought about when I heard Jimmy Carter say it and it's what I've always believed, it's what Senator Bernie Sanders says and it's actually going to tip into what we have to talk about in the next segment. And jimmy carter said, and I quote the us is an oligarchy with unlimited political bribery.
Speaker 4:Rest in peace our social and political progress has been based on one fundamental principle the value and importance of the individual. Based on this knowledge of Georgia, north and South, rural and urban, liberal and conservative, I say to you quite frankly that the time for racial discrimination is over. These are not just my goals, and they will not be my accomplishments, but the affirmation of our nation's continuing moral strength. Human identity is no longer defined by what one does but by what one owns. But we've discovered that owning things and consuming things does not satisfy our longing for meaning. War may sometimes be a necessary evil, but no matter how necessary, it is always evil, never a good. America did not invent human rights In a very real sense. It's the other way around Human rights invented America.
Speaker 1:Weeding into the next topic. We're going to talk about this visa program. Okay, and let me layer this conversation with some truth here. Growing up in Jacksonville, Florida, I would like to say the great state of Florida we had to always deal with certain levels of immigration, legal and illegal. So because of America's wanting to fight socialism or the Red Scare or whatever, wherever they could find it, when the United States saw that Fidel Castro overthrew then leader of Cuba Batista, what ended up happening is there was a law still actually maybe on the books where people who were coming from Cuba who landed in America immediately became American citizens. It was widely known that most people who came from Cuba were for just geographical purposes, were going to hit Florida and get automatic citizenship.
Speaker 1:As growing up, I saw how inherently propagandizing the policy was. Obviously these people fleeing socialist Castro, fleeing socialist Cuba to come to freedom-loving America. That was kind of the propaganda. I noticed the hypocrisy in the policy when I would see my friends from which I did have, from the Dominican Republic, who had escaped or I left Dominica and come to America, had escaped or I left Dominica and come to America the fact that they had American soil. They did not become citizens. They had just as many skills as the people from Cuba, but that did not matter. I saw it happening with people from Haiti. I saw people in Florida from Puerto Rico, which Puerto Rico is. Puerto Ricans are Americans, you know but I saw the way that they were treated differently and this is what launched my views, my thoughts about immigration. I watched when there was a massive influx of Haitians into Florida for humanitarian purposes. They were in florida legally, but I did see how.
Speaker 1:I think I talked about this in a maybe not this show, but I did a guest spot on over opinionated, the show over opinionated, with josh scott. Please give josh a chance. It's a conservative show, um, but he's very soft-spoken and he does try to give it a. You know, give the other side a fair thought, a fair shot. I should say um, I guess hosted and I talked about how difficult it was when the influx of haitian um migrants came to florida and how we had to deal with just the cultural differences, even when we were trying to deal with it in the church and some of the practices that they had with voodoo and things like that, and it was. It does shock a culture. I'll just stop say that light there.
Speaker 1:But there has always been a bubbling around the surfaces about what and who type of people could come into America. There's always been a debate about why somebody fails and why somebody succeeds in America. It's always been one of these kind of debates about the type of immigrant or why you failed. What is going to happen? How can we protect American workers when American manufacturing has left the country In jumps?
Speaker 1:What I'm going to call the globalist and what I mean by globalist? I'm going to say that their thoughts are not primarily with the American workers. They are multi-nationals and they are also technocrats. They are tech billionaires and the companies that they have and the capital they have access to it is global and their thinking is not primarily with the United States of America. Their thinking is global and their thinking is not primarily with the United States of America. Their thinking is global like a globalist Of themselves. They are also business owners and therefore they also have succeeded enough because of the frame of business that they own to become billionaires. We talked on this show before about how money is not moral or immoral. It is amoral. It has no loyalty.
Speaker 1:Pops us to this immigration fight about what is known as H1B visas. So Elon Musk, in his relentless pursuit to become the world's richest man, used a lot of h1b visas. If you go, look at the actual people who are a part of the trump base, um, they're. They have a critique of immigration and immigration policy. That is not just about the people in Springfield, et cetera. Uh, who came in through the um. That would have been the system of the. You know, claiming refugees there is. H-1b visas are people with jobs that are normally you need a degree to do it. It is a high level of specificity and these are foreign workers who come into America to normally work in the tech sector. They will normally have a bachelor's degree and up and they will be normally in these sectors.
Speaker 1:Now Laura Loomer, who is a conservative, far, far right journalist, critiqued the this, this program, and I'm going to let you hear Laura in her own words eventually, laura in her own words, you know, eventually and this is a program that Elon actually believes in and credits himself um, in my opinion, wrongly on um saying this uh, elon actually says on his the platform that he uses capital to buy. Elon says the reason I am in America along with so many critical people who built SpaceX, tesla and hundreds of other companies that made America strong is because of H-1B visas. Take a big step back and go f yourself in the face. I will go to war on this issue, the likes of which you cannot possibly comprehend. Now look this um was his response to um laura loomer. But let me tell you frankly the people who don't know the reason why Elon Musk supports H-1B visas programs has nothing to do about Elon giving a shit About people with brown skin or labor or blah, blah, blah. It is about cheap profits and and, and that is it.
Speaker 1:This has been a growing fight that republicans were bound to have because, uh, republican provocateurs and lawyer and culture this is a part where people like her actually uh are on the right side of this who have called h1b visas for years for what I think they were. It gives them a this power of almost indentured servitude. This was a fight that barack obama had to have with steve jobs, where steve jobs told barack obama the reason why Apple does not hire engineers in America. He claimed that Americans didn't have enough engineers. People on my side of the economic aisle have always said that was a scam and it was a lie and it was actually predicated on the fact that the engineers that they would get from India and Asia and from the Pacific Islands, that they were not asked for the wages that the American engineers were going to ask for. So you have these people with these high skilled degrees doing these high skilled work and they're making $40,000, $50,000 when the American engineer, rightfully, rightfully, would be demanding at least $75,000, $80,000, maybe $90,000 a year. That is the type of problem that this H-1B visa kind of created. Now here's something that also we're gonna have to jump into.
Speaker 1:Elon musk is not actually telling the truth on this h1b visa situation about his own immigration status, right, and this goes back to a conversation that it's kind of enhanced. So you know this comes from hasim mezua, pmp and you can go look it up yourself and do your own research. And he responded to elon and said elon musk did not come in the United States on a H-1B visa. He illegally came here, scamming his way on a student visa, the F-1. And he never used it. He violated the terms to work the terms to work. His constant lies about his origin story are just to lecture folks there to protect himself from deportation and avoid the massive fines and maybe even asset seizures that could follow an investigation because Elon committed a massive fraud by not using the F1, which it was appropriate.
Speaker 1:The architect of, you know, some of the Trump's pulse on the base of the party is Steve Bannon and, uh, the lower lumers, whether whether you like it or not, and he has been very long critical of Elon, not just for the H H1B visas, but for Anybody that knows anything about Steve Bannon, you're going to know he is going to be against the what we would call the globalists, and so he has been hitting heavy Elon for a very long time Because he sees Elon as as a fraud who is trying to basically take over the Republican Party via scam because he has access to a certain amount of capital. Now, believe it or not, this is what I've also thought about Elon Musk for a very long period of time, because I remember you know, I followed him on X and all the stuff like that and I remember watching and reading a post where Elon said Donald Trump will be 82 at the end of you know a term or something like that. You know a term or something like that. Paraphrasing here, he said he's not. That is too old to be a chief executive of anything, let alone the president of the United States. Now that was Elon saying Donald Trump is too old to be the president, too old to be running running anything. And then he's going to turn around and act like he is some type of um.
Speaker 1:I'll just say, act like he was some type of hero and I, I, just I. I I'm going to get into this a bit more, but I, but I think that people don't recognize that billionaires for the most part are apolitical people. They just, they just want a policy to work, especially if they're business owners. But I think that people don't recognize that billionaires for the most part are apolitical people. They just want a policy to work, especially if they're business owners. They are just trying to get favorable policies for their specific business and they're actually not interested in how it affects the subset of population. They're worried about how it affects them and their business interests.
Speaker 2:Period people that he keeps blocked off there, myself including. Not that I want to go on there, oh yeah, no, no, he's owned. He's owned by the chinese communist party. What are you talking about? Tesla? His only sense of only thing of real value is tesla, he. He uses it for margin loans. He sells the stock. The shanghai joint venture is 100, controlled by the ccp.
Speaker 2:This is why this is why he never goes after the ccp. This is why he always backs off. This is when they had the, the protest. They had the protest about the lockdowns of covid. He what he will not do it. Elon musk is a total and complete phony. He is in bed in a business party. He's done some good stuff, but letting stuff out uh, you know with taib, you know others is fine, but he is owned lock, stock and barrel by the chinese that.
Speaker 1:That's when he says ccp, for people who don't are not aware, he's talking about the chinese communist party and um, I don't, I don't think anybody can deny, even with the, the government funding bill that Elon just blocked. Everybody knows that, that was in the know, would know that that was not about the spending bill. There were some heavy provisions on China, and when you put heavy provisions on the, the, the China, they are. That was going to affect Tesla and Elon did everything he could to stop that bill from coming forward. And once the stuff about China was taken out, he supported the bill. He of course said oh yes, this was a, etc. Etc, etc, um. But uh, it wasn't, it was about Tesla. So this is sparked the full on war about these visas, why people support him, etc. Etc. Um, and who they should. And this is what was. This was bound to happen.
Speaker 1:I was because when I was growing up, they always had this narrative that there was a certain subset of people in the state of Florida that were failing, and it had nothing to do with systemic problems. It was about them. It was about them. It was about them. It was about them, it was about their personal behavior.
Speaker 1:And then there was another group of us that talked about. It's actually not about that. It is about a bunch of low wage jobs because of this heavy influx of Migrant workers, and when you would bring up stuff like that, you would honestly be labeled as a racist, a bigot and a xenophobe. And there was a certain subset of the Republican Party and even some libertarians who used to always say if you're not rich and successful, etc. Blame yourself. They were not interested in the structural critiques about what shipping in a bunch of low skilled workers were doing to the economy. Now they're seeing that what happens when you ship in a bunch of high skilled workers and what that is or did do to the economy is or did do to the economy. Steve Bannon has been going after Elon on these issues for a very long time and he has a lot to say.
Speaker 2:There have been some people and as I put up stuff, I said, steve, we have to have a group hug. No, no, this is central to how they gutted the middle class in this country and we haven't fought these battles over years and years and years to allow American citizens of every race, ethnicity, religion be gutted by the sociopathic overlords in Silicon Valley. So, no, david Sachs and Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk, no, you're complete collapse and you think, oh, we're just trying to reform it, we're just trying to have a conversation, we want to reform it. No, there's no reformation, no reform. We want it gone. We demand that it's gone. We're going to fight for this and not just gone. I've got another alternative.
Speaker 1:We want reparations for the tech workers that you stole their lives. This started, like I said. This started a a big fight in uh the modern day republicans, with even uh uh people like a former mma fighter, a podcaster, uh summit column, if no nationalist uh, jake shields uh coming on and saying we are living, we are giving our low-wage jobs to Mexicans and Salvadorians while giving our high-paying jobs to Indians and Chinese. He was responded to by another host of a big show, patrick Bett Daveman. He's also a CEO and businessman and businessman and he um responded and saying so you want me to not hire high performing, hard-working and skilled indians and you want me to hire an american, even if that person is not capable, lack skills and are entitled. So you do support diversity, equity and, conclusion, you do support DEI. I thought you hated it. Now this is what we get to.
Speaker 1:What I was trying to talk to you about this before, there's always been this playful notion that America was meritocratic and every way you do and everything you're going to do to get up has to be meritocracy. And in that post, jake Shields kind of says wait a minute, wait a minute. It's not necessarily about meritocracy, it's about protecting the American worker. I've always said you cannot have both. You cannot have protectionism and meritocracy. You cannot have protectionism when meritocracy because the capital by itself is not going to allow the best talent to come forward, it's going to allow the cheapest talent to come forward. That's always been the game.
Speaker 1:Ever since america got rid of free labor, which we know as slavery, the American business model has been doing everything it can to find cheap labor constantly. That is the American business model. How can I get a good product on the cheapest way possible? And the most cheapest product that I want, and I want for the longest time, is how can I get the cheapest labor, the cheapest worker? How can I make you make my company millions of dollars and not pay you millions of dollars? How can I make you make me a millionaire while you live below the poverty line? It's always been that way. Now people on the right have just started to notice it.
Speaker 2:There's some racism over there. You white folks go look at that. That's a Fox specialty. We don't fall for that. So don't think you're going to come back, and oh you know what. Well, what we need to do is increase it here and cut that cost there. Screw you, you clown, and then you're going to suppress us. Oh, they're, I don't know, blacklisting you. Whatever they're doing, I don't care what they do on Twitter, I could care less. We're banned on every platform in the world and this show is one of the most powerful in the world. Why is that? Because the content of this show resonates with the most powerful audience in the world, working men and women that happen to be citizens of this great republic, that happen to be citizens of this great republic.
Speaker 2:This is a defining moment. Some of the people say, oh, steve, we've got to have a group hug. You can't do this and let the Democrats no, no, we're not having group hugs, we're not having pats on the head. You've got to get this straight First off. You've got to get hey.
Speaker 2:I've said many times that Elon came and Elon's money helped organize the grassroots of it. In his engineering mind, he saw what the problem was as we saw it and he supported it and for that he gets a place at the table. There's no doubt you should. It's a quarter of a billion dollars in June, not an entire cycle in five months. But that dinner with Saks and that check from Elon came at Biden's. You know. When Biden, you know, in the debate or right before the debate, and Biden, you know, they kind of saw the numbers of where this thing was heading. They're recent converts.
Speaker 2:We love converts. Hell, I'm a Catholic. We used to be in the convert business. Not so much anymore. We can't keep what we got. But in the old days, you know, half the saints are missionaries we love and converts. But the converts sit in the back and study for years and years and years and make sure you understand the faith and you understand the nuances of the faith and understand how you can internalize the faith.
Speaker 2:Don't come up and go to the pulpit in your first week here and start lecturing people about the way things are going to be. If you're going to do that, we're going to get and we're going to rip your face off because you can't beat us. We're not beatable. This army of the awakened is not beatable because we're relentless and we will never surrender and we will never slow down and, yes, if you go low, we'll go to the center of the earth, because we're fighting for something that means something. We have meaning in this. This is why people watch the show, this is why people come to the show and all this great content people provide us and Ben Berkham's down now, putting his life in danger again why do people do this? Why have they done this for years? Why did they do it for years? At Breitbart, when Trump started appearing in 13 and 14, we said that's the guy. When Trump started appearing in 13 and 14, we said that's the guy.
Speaker 2:Visa program is a total and complete scam concocted by the lords of easy money on Wall Street and the oligarchs in Silicon Valley. The citizens in this country are what provided the platform for you nerds even to exist. We're not gonna take the temperature down. We're not gonna take the temperature down. Oh no, oh no, oh no. We do not. It's no backing down, it's doubling down. This is Elon Musk.
Speaker 2:The reason I'm in America, along with so many critical people who built SpaceX, tesla and hundreds of other companies that made America strong is because of H1B. That made America strong is because of H-1B. Take a big step back and F yourself all caps in the face. F yourself in the face. I will go to war on this issue, the likes of which you cannot possibly comprehend. Oh yeah, tough guy, you're gonna go to war on the likes of which you cannot possibly comprehend. You're a man child.
Speaker 2:The H1B visa program is a total and complete scam concocted by the lords of easy money on Wall Street and the oligarchs in Silicon Valley to both, initially, to just increase profit margins. But there's a darker element to it today, a contempt of America and American citizens, and we're not going to tolerate it. We need to honor this country and you need to honor the citizens in this country. The citizens in this country are what provided the platform for you nerds even to exist, because, in the predatory nature, the darwinian environment of the world as it is, you would have already been crushed and destroyed so during the campaign, uh, trump was rolling around with this uh journalist, uh, somewhat a new, new and culture style provocateur, um, maybe a bit more ridiculous and unhinged, and her name is laura loomer.
Speaker 1:Laura loomer got into this conversation and this is kind of what sparked it. Right, and, as crazy and conspiratorial as she may be, I want you to listen to what Laura says, because you may find yourself in agreement to with Laura, and this is what makes this conversation more complicated and difficult than we would actually like it to be.
Speaker 6:What is it going to mean for the future of our country, our national security and the incoming Trump administration if we have a bunch of technocrats who are also essentially welfare queens because their companies are receiving government subsidies and they want to take over our defense industry? If you have a bunch of tech bros with billions of dollars and direct, unfettered access to the vice president and the president of the United States, and then they are also, you know, very cordial with our adversaries, as in China and Iran. We see that Elon Musk is having these meetings off the books with Iranian officials, with Chinese officials. What does that mean for us and the future of our constitutional repel?
Speaker 1:what does that mean for us and the future of our constitutional repel? Good, so here's where I come in and I and I'm gonna fly under my true flag about what, what I say, that I am and what I believe. Like I said before, everyone knows I'm an economic existentialist. Everyone knows that in the political sense of my own political beliefs, what I believe, not necessarily what I always say. There's a lot of camps, whether you are a conservative, whether you're a conservative Republican, a centrist, a democrat, a liberal, a progressive, a green partier, a socialist, a democratic socialist, etc. Etc. A libertarian, a constitutionalist, and we can kind of go on and on. Are you a narco-capitalist In that camp? I am a narco-cynicalist. I've always have been in spirit, not necessarily in practice, because in practice when a narco-cynicalism comes to America, as close as I'm going to be able to get to, it is going to be some form of libertarianism. So I always sometimes say small C conservative, big L libertarian. Maybe I'll do a show one day on a narco-cynicalism.
Speaker 1:But in that vein we always talk about things like monarchy, oligarchy, plutocracy. Those are fundamentally what we would call leftist terms. When was the last time you heard the word oligarchy? And you hear it often in the American media. In the American media, when you look at, do a quick search of who uses the word the most when it comes to the American landscape, it's Democratic Socialist Dr Cornel West and Democratic Socialist Senator from Vermont, bernie Sanders. They are always talking about oligarchy, bernie Sanders. They are always talking about oligarchy. Cornel West will actually talk about oligarchy and plutocracy. This is the rise of the American Uniparty Alliance, because now you have Steve Bannon, who is no left-winger, and Laura Lundemar, who is no left-winger. Using words like oligarchy, plutocracy and monarchy is a critique of a certain type of capitalism. Now, when you go look up those terms where they are coming from, they're generally leftist terms, leftist ideas, leftist narratives.
Speaker 1:Now, what makes this conversation more interesting about what I said about globalism etc. Is somebody who I think is very intelligent, articulate, well-spoken, popped into this conversation presidential candidate and small government crusader, billionaire and technocrat, vivek Ramaswamy. And what Vivek did when he stepped into this conversation is almost drop a weapons grade side nuclear bomb into the conversation. Because what Vivek did is what conservatives have done for years. He went after American culture.
Speaker 1:Vivek says the reason top tech companies often hire foreign-born and first-generation engineers over native-born Americans isn't because of an innate American IQ deficit, ie lazy and wrong explanation. A key part of it comes down to the C word culture. Tough questions demand tough answers and if we are really serious about facing the problem, we have to confront the truth. Our American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long, at least since the 90s and likely longer. That doesn't start in college, it starts young. A culture that celebrates prom queens over the math Olympia champ or the jock over the valedictorian will not produce the best engineers. A culture that venerates Corey from Boy Meets World or Zach from Slater over Screech and Saved by the Bell, or Stefan over Steve Urkel and Family Matters will not produce the best engineers.
Speaker 1:Fact I know multiple sets of immigrant parents in the 90s who actively limited how much their kids could watch those TV shows, precisely because they promoted mediocrity and their kids went on to become wildly successful STEM graduates. More movies like White Splash, fewer reruns of Friends, more math tutoring, fewer sleepovers, more weekend science competitions, fewer Saturday morning cartoons, more books, less TV, more creating, less chilling, more extracurriculars, less hanging out at the mall. Most normal American parents look skeptically at those kind of parents. More normal Americans kind of view such those kinds of kids with scorn. If you grew up expiring to normalcy, normalcy is what you will achieve. Now close your eyes and visualize which families you knew in the 90s or even now who raised their kids according to the model versus the other.
Speaker 1:Brutal, honest Normalcy does not cut it in a hyper-competitive global market for technical talent, and if we pretend like it does, we will have our asses handed to us by China. This can be our Sputnik moment. We've awakened from a slumber before and we can do it again. Trump's election hopefully marks the beginning of a new golden era in America, but only if our culture fully wakes up, a culture that can once again prioritize achievement over normalcy, excellence over mediocrity, nerdiness over conformity, hard work over laziness. That's the work we have to cut out for us, rather than the wallowing in victimhood and just wishing our legislating alternative hiring practices into existence. I'm confident we can do this now. This is why this was so controversial, because it rings so much truth of the conservative critique of what conservatives for years a subsection of conservatives for years have said, that specific thing about certain groups in America.
Speaker 1:Anytime you point out anything systemic, the answer you get is about single parent families and so on and so forth. Where was the father? What about education? And then, if you do everything that you are allegedly supposed to do, guess what happens? They'll say oh, you were overly educated. You went to college, you got these degrees and the college didn't pan out for you, and so on and so forth. It is a never-ending cycle of excuses because they don't want to deal with the systemic problems that face us all. And now that that chicken has come home to root and that dog is not trying to hunt, because now that the tech no crats are leaving the Democratic Party and they are shifted over to the Republican Party. It is just a matter of fact that Vivek used to be a Democrat. It is a matter of fact that Donald Trump was a Democrat for the longest portion of his adult life. It is a matter of fact that Elon Musk was on the left for a longest portion of his adult life. It is a matter of fact that Elon Musk was on the left for a long portion of his life.
Speaker 1:And all those people that I just named have two things in common they are all billionaires. They are all college educated, they all went to the top, elite universities. They are not like the majority of the people they cosplay to be representing, and the tough thing that they're saying in this thing is is is is the conversation that we have to have, because now those same people who used to be moderately somewhere on the left we could just say in the Democratic Party who used to actually believe a lot of the reasons you were failing is because you were stupid, they have now shifted to the right and guess what they are still saying. They are now saying to people on the right we are not going to hire you because you are too stupid, you didn't go to school, you didn't get the advanced degree and we're not going to train you.
Speaker 1:Elon Musk even liked a post it said somewhat. It said something like the tech right is arguing with the normal right about jobs and the tech right is saying we need these jobs from these workers, from, I would just say, former nationals. And then the right right is saying we need these jobs from these workers from, I would just say, former nationals. And then the right right is saying well, why won't you train us? And then the tech right is saying because you're retarded and we can't fix you being retarded. Elon Musk said that was true, the richest person in the world, so de facto the richest person in the United States of America, somebody who helped fund the Trump campaign, these two people who are over Doge, the Department of Government Efficiency, vivac, and Elon Musk, is now looking down on the American worker on the right and saying we can't help you, you are a bunch of idiots and that's not going to go over. Well, but that is what it is boiling down to A full on civil Civil war of type Is going to have to happen In the Republican Party. Is it has to happen In the Democratic Party?
Speaker 1:Because this is about Labor and, of course, immigration Is a piece of it. It's a big piece and I always have said and it is because labor is not necessarily global, like money is global, and when labor becomes a global issue, and when labor becomes a global issue, the labor that becomes global is through ways of immigration, whether that is illegal immigration or whether that is refugee immigration, whether that is the visa situation. And when people come there is a suppression by the very nature of the wages and that does affect the local population. And when people who own things don't want to deal with what that does to the local population. We constantly have these clashes and the clashes is not going to stop, but this is something that it is staring Donald Trump right in the face.
Speaker 1:Donald Trump came out for for all intent and purposes and agreed with Elon Musk. Now that doesn't mean anything, because during his administration, donald Trump was on the other side of the issue. But Donald Trump also said that he uses S-1B visas on his properties and when you go look it up, that's not the case. Trump uses S-2 visas on his property because he hires people in the sector of hospitality, the sector of hospitality. So your cookers, your cleaners, your people who are going to cut your grass or be your waiters he's not hiring S1B visas people you know in the tech industry. So Trump tried to weigh in, obviously didn't say the correct terminology, but basically, you know he went on a podcast when he was running for president last year and he said I wish that every degree came with a green card attached to it. Donald Trump, categorically, is on the side of the other billionaires and this issue is not going away. I'm going to end on this.
Speaker 1:One other note. Elon Musk, of course, bought Twitter, now known as X x, and the numbers are somewhat out. We could see that that twitter tanked, but I don't really care about that aspect. We could see that it is now 70 percent loss since he bought the company. My critique is he bought it under the banner of freedom of speech. Now I knew and I told people there's no such thing as freedom of speech. Now I knew and I told people there's no such thing as freedom of speech in these tech industries.
Speaker 1:Freedom of speech when you hear that word thrown around is kind of a pejorative, for I want to be able to say the most reprehensible shit and not be held accountable for it. I want to be able to get online and say the N-word and nobody cares. I want to be online and be able to say be anti-Semitic and not be called, and nobody cares. I want to be online and be able to put swastikas all over the place and nobody cares. And I want to have a certain amount of conspiracy theories and not let you put labels on me to say I'm fake news, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1:So Elon bought this platform under the guidelines of freedom of speech and the left immediately saw that Elon started banning their accounts, started banning their accounts and I said, as a bit of a Chomskyite. I said uh, remember, chomsky says freedom of speech is for the speech you detest. If you do not have the freedom of speech for views you find deplorable, you don't believe in freedom of speech at all. So they were silent while these left-wingers started to get their accounts banned and all this stuff. And when Elon responded he said freedom of speech does not mean freedom of reach Jake Shields, laura Loomer, etc. Simply because they disagreed with Elon Musk, who owns the company, he demonetized them. They can no longer make money on the platform. He immediately took away their blue check marks, etc. I'll just say this no-transcript. You need to have the principle, not just when it affects you. If you believe in the freedom of people to say things that you disagree with, you need to agree with it and defend views that you don't hold.
Speaker 1:There's a famous old poem or ditty that I always think of in this moment and this is how we're going to end the show. This is the famous quote from World War II after War II, from Nemours. So Martin Nemours, to be precise, if you want to listen to it or look it up. He was actually lived between 1892 to 1984. He passed away two years before I was born.
Speaker 1:He was a prominent Lutheran pastor in Germany in the 1920s and the early 1930s and unfortunately he sympathized with many Nazi ideas and he supported radical right-wing political movements. But after Adolf Hitler came to power in 1933, nemo became an outspoken critic of Hitler's interference, specifically because it was in Protestant churches. He spent the last eight years of Nazi rule, from 1937 to 1945, and Nazi prisons and concentration camps. Nemours is perhaps remembered for his post-war statements, which says this First they came for the socialist and I did not speak out because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak for me. Thank you for tuning in and we'll see you on the next episode.