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Independent media that won't reinforce tribalism. We have one Planet; nobody's leaving so let’s reason together!! Darrell McClain is a Military veteran with an abnormal interest in politics, economics, religion, philosophy, science, and literature. He's the author of Faith and the Ballot: A Christian's Guide to Voting, Unity, and Witness in Divided Times. He was born and raised in Jacksonville FL, and went to Edward H white High School,l where he wrestled under Coach Jermy Smith and The Late Brian Gilbert. He was a team wrestling captain, District champion, and an NHSCA All-American in freestyle Wrestling. He received a wrestling scholarship from Waldorf University in Forest City, Iowa. After a short period, he decided he no longer wanted to cut weight, effectively ending his college wrestling journey. Darrell McClain is an Ordained Pastor under the Universal Life Church and is still in good standing as well as a Minister for the American Marrige Ministries . He's a Believer in The Doctrines of Grace, Also Known as Calvinism. He joined the United States Navy in 2008 and was A Master at Arms (military police officer) He was awarded several awards while on active duty, including an expeditionary combat medal, a Global War on Terror medal, a National Defense Medal, a Korean Defense Medal, and multiple Navy achievement medals. While In the Navy, he was also the assistant wrestling coach at Robert E Lee High School. He's a Black Belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu under 6th-degree black belt Gustavo Machado, Darrell Trains At Gustavo Machado Norfolk under the 4th-degree black belt, and Former Marine Professor Mark Sausser. He went to school for psychology at American Military University and for criminal justice at ECPI University.
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When Politics Becomes Theater, Who Writes The Bill For Real People?
Welcome to the Daryl McLean show. I'm your host, Darrell McLean, independent media. When reinforced tribalism, we have one planet. Nobody is leaving. So let us reason together. We're going to get right into it, and I'm going to do something a bit different because I'm always appreciative when uh people who support the show ask for something and ask me a question. So first things first, we're going to get to the questions of the people who have been quietly making this thing happen. So the question goes. Today, the Senate passed a bill to rescind tariffs on Brazilian imports. Five Republicans joined the majority to vote yes. The bill probably won't make it through House, and if it did, the president would veto it. If that happens, what message is our lawmakers sending to the administration? So uh there we have it. And because it's a loyal uh person who actually has been supporting the show financially for five years, uh they they get first dips. So here's my answer. When um let me put it this way first things first. This wasn't a vote, it was more like a message. When when five Republicans break ranks in 2025, that's not subtle, that's not accidental. That's not, oh, we missed read the room. No, that's a political flare shot in the sky saying, we're tired of carrying the weight of your tariff experiment. The administration loves tariffs, like some broke people we know love broke down cars. Loud, messy, expensive, always in the shop, but they swear it just has to be a classic. Meanwhile, the rest of America is looking at the bill. These senators stepped out and said, This isn't classic. It's just costing us money. They are saying the quiet thing out loud, tariffs hurt Americans. Let's stop pretending Brazil is suffering here. Brazil is fine, Brazil is growing, Brazil is exporting like it's nothing else. The people hurting are American buyers, American farmers, American manufacturers, American families already stretched thin. Tariffs don't punish the country, tariffs punish the people. And the lawmakers, Republicans included, are basically telling the administration stop calling these tariffs patriotic when they're just taxes with a better name. I like to basically say they're just taxes with the uh public relations uh representative spinning a narrative. The d they the the these Republicans have actually done what people have been hoping that would happen, and they're drawing a line between real conservatism and performative populism, which if you get into ideology, they are two different things. Old school conservatives, the ones who s uh you know actually study, actually have an ideology, actually uh read books, actually think that conservatism is a principle that is unchanging, those people will still quote Milton Freeman's from memory. And they're looking at tariffs like, when did we become the party of government interference in the market? This is supposed to be the party of Ronald Reagan. We d we are doing exactly what Ronald Reagan said. This is supposed to be the party of William F. Buckley, this is supposed to be the party of Billy Goldwater, this is supposed to be the party of Georgia Will. This is supposed to be the party of Charles Cartheimer. And these people were intelligent, they wrote books about what conservatives is, everybody accepted it. You can go look and see what conservatism was then and see what it is now, and you come to your own conclusion. They are drawing the line in the sand now. Then that's the facil the the the uh philosophical fight hiding under this whole movement. The five Republicans didn't cross the Owl because they love Brazil. They crossed the Owl because they still love conservative, actual, classical economics. They still believe in conservative economics, they still believe in the markets, they still love not strangling businesses with unpredictable trade costs. So their vote said we haven't actually forgotten who we used to be. So they're also saying your veto threats do not scare us anymore. No, this one is the spicy part. Everybody knows the bill won't pass the Senate. Or the everybody knows the president will veto it. But they voted anyway, on purpose, because sometimes the message is more important than the math. They're sending a little postcard to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue saying, we're not afraid of your politically, and we are not afraid of you, your your popularity, we are not covering you anymore economically. You are getting to lose your power because you are a approaching lame duck status. And internationally, woo, that was a uh foreign policy side eye. And uh that it wasn't just about uh steel or beef or supply chains, it was about posture, it was about the positions, it was about the perspective. By voting to roll all those tears back, lawmakers are saying, we do not cosign on your trade war, and we do we will not co-sign on your worldview. They're signaling loudly, now that your coalition is basically dying, we want stability, you want partnerships, we want predictability, we want allies, not enemies, and we're tired of making US policy and moose bang because the global economy doesn't respond to swagger, it responds to structure. This was about farmers. Many American farmers have been taking uh tremendous pain. They've been having hits like they they were having to to fight Mike Tyson, retaliatory tariffs, crop surpluses with no buyers, fore markets moving on, equipment more expensive than a small house. Lawmakers from rural states, red, blue, are watching family farmers suffocate quietly, respectively, and painfully. The vote today was a part of a concession. We can't go home and look our farmers in the eye if we keep backing harmful tariffs. But the biggest message is this we're not carrying your political baggage anymore. And that is the heart of it. Lawmakers are telling the administration, we will not be the shield for your economic decisions, especially the ones that make nice campaign slogans, but bad real-world outcomes. There was a rebellion wrapped in Senate procedure, a protest disguised as a vote, and it's a warning dressed up like bipartisanship. Nobody expects the bill to make it to the president's desk and be signed. But that's the whole point. It doesn't have to pass to make a point, it just has to exist. If I had to put it uh in a clean way, uh sharp sentences the kind for um, I guess TikTok or something, i i i uh I would have to pull the closer here. Your terror strategy is hurting Americans, isolating allies, and breaking the economy. We are no longer willing to pretend otherwise. Period. That's it. That's the message. And the fact it came from both sides of the aisle, that means it tells you exactly where the wind is blowing. The Republican Party is going back to being the party of Mitt Romney. The Republican Party is going back to being the party of John McCain. The Republican Party is going back to being the party of Newt Gingrich because that will actually survive. They have realized, and I think this is very important, that just like the Obama coalition did not transfer to the Democratic Party when Obama left, the Trump coalition will not transfer to the Republican Party when Donald Trump leaves. They are telling you it's over. Thank you for the question. And thank you for your five years of support to the Darrell McLean show. Right back with more.
SPEAKER_12:But there's a reason. There's a reason. There's a reason for this, there's a reason education stucks, it's the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It's never going to get any better. Don't look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. You don't you have no choice. You have the only thing, you're not in point, benefit. Nobody nobody's like, don't give a fuck about it. Nobody seems to nobody seems nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on. The fact that Americans will normally remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white, and blue dip that's being jammed up their assholes every day. Because the owners in this country know the truth. It's called the American dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
SPEAKER_13:I actually love it when my regulars send me questions because they give me content to discuss because I would like to produce more content, and I'm trying to formulate ideas, and when they actually give me their idea, they help me put out more content. So thank you. I encourage people to keep doing it. And you know, and this is why. And I think they proved him right again in broad daylight.
SPEAKER_14:The Senate pulled and I'm gonna tell you why I say that.
SPEAKER_13:The Senate popped out this little thing about repealing imports. Five Republicans jump over the fence joining Democrats, and they want you and me to believe that that is what actually happened. And they just suddenly found a conscience joining Democrats uh about an issue so they can prove their bipartisanship. And I want you to think about it like this. Bless their hearts. Oh, start cheering. Oh, look at that bipartisanship. No way. Five Republicans broke ranks. No, no, no. Let me help you out. It was not bipartisanship. That was class solidarity, but it was not the class that you think. Those senators did not have a moral awakening. Nobody got visited by the ghosts of the Economic Policy Institute. This isn't a fiction, this isn't uh Mr. Scrooge. What happened was simple. The donor class got uncomfortable and Washington adjusts really fast when people are holding the checkbook and they start clearing their throat. Let's break this down slow, like I am counseling America in a folding chair. What just happened in the previous election that I spoke about?
SPEAKER_14:You can go back.
SPEAKER_13:The mecha center, the mecha center of American capitalism elected a socialist by a landslide.
SPEAKER_14:That is what it's about.
SPEAKER_13:They're trying to respond and say, we have gone so far into this Trumpism that the the way the Oberton window swings, because we let Trump do everything and we didn't hold him accountable, the Oberton window has now become that extreme. On the other end, Trump and his populism has made us accept socialism because populism is a gateway to socialism. And everybody who actually studies these systems know full well that these are cousins. What is not what is populism? But a form of direct democracy. What was supposed to be the foundational principles of conservatism, representative government. Because they allow Trump to define conservatism as if it was the same thing as populism, they snuck socialism in the Republican Party. And people started to listen to what Donald Trump said and he was saying it as a Republican, and they said, Oh, it actually sounds like I like some of that socialism. Why? Because he did not call it socialism, he called it populism. Go look up how similar they are, because it's all about what? Mob rule. Populism does not mean anything. This is why it's easy. Populism is literally whatever the populace wants. What is socialism? The greater good for everybody. Sacrifice for the greater good of the most of the people. Now, let's break this down in something that I have been saying for years. If it is true that sixty percent of uh plus of Americans live paycheck to paycheck, that's the number. Sixty percent of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. If it is true that a large percent of Americans, somewhere close to that, maybe even more, do not have one thousand dollars for an emergency. Over half of Americans. If it's true that even half of America does not have five hundred dollars, you can call it whatever you will, it is the gap is growing so fast, and people because they let Donald Trump hijack the Republican Party, Donald Trump was able to say something that Bernie Sanders was not able to say, and I don't understand why they didn't understand why they were setting themselves up. Did you not pay attention to all the studies, m all the polls that showed people voted for Donald Trump and who was their next choice? Bernie Sanders. Go look at the exit polls, go look at all those stuff and say when Bernie Sanders did not get the Democratic nomination, people picked Trump. Why? They were similar. They're gonna give me what I want. Me, me, me, my stuff. Different names, same underlying principle. Now that is that. So the whole tariff fiasco just shows what is true. Because when you look at the numbers, and AOC proved it, there are people who picked that they would vote for Donald Trump or Alexandrio, Ocasio, Cortez. Why? They want to give people what they want under a different name. So the whole tariff thing is fake. It's a show, it's a gimmick, it's nothing more than professional wrestling. So it's not honest. It's a game. Tariffs on Brazil. Oh, we're protecting America. No, no, no. They're not protecting America. They're not losing any sleep. Brazil is not losing customers. You're not watching the price of beef or steel or soybeans break their budget. You know who's suffering? American consumers. American farmers, American manufacturers, American families who already feel like the grocery store is a spiritual trial. Tariffs are taxes. Plain and simple. Taxes don't come with benefits, just headaches. And now we're at the point where even Republican senators who spent years pretending tariffs for holy scripture are quietly backing out of the room like, oh, we uh we have now found out that this is working. Folks back home are angry, and donors are angry. And the Senate is not sending a message to the president, they're sending a message to their owners. Alright, Trump is about to be a lame duck next year. We can now get serious again, we can now quit playing games. The votes are not about you, the voter. The votes are about the people who funded re-election campaigns and its own supply chains. It's the same old Carlin truth. There is a club. More than likely, you are not in it. You're not even parked in the same zip code. The tariff reversal vote, that was a board of directors tugging on the political leash, like, hey, Trump is almost out of here. Cut this out. We are losing money. And suddenly the Senate moves. Now when farmers were bleeding, when consumers were hurting, when small businesses were screaming, no, nobody listens. Only when the donors grew restless. That's when it became important. And the the the fight started to happen. They protected each other. You see it hundreds of times on TV, throwing fireballs, talking about the radical left, far-right extremists, the border, the economy, socialism, fascism, blah blah blah. All that is nothing more than political world wrestling entertainment. But behind closed doors, when investors classes say, hey, cut out the theoretics, we got money on the line, now the billionaire class is told them what to do. And that's who own this place. So they lock arms like a choir members when when they're trying to be like the temptations and and harmonize. All of a sudden, they they care about the people. They do. They're people. Because the truth, the truth that Washington wants to hide is Republicans and Democrats both protect capital before they protect people. They always have. Carlin saw it years ago. I was in high school looking listening at that. I have uh yeah, yeah, it's been it's been some years, and it still rings true. The only people who don't see it are the ones who still believe campaign slogans actually mean anything. And you can't allow yourself to be fooled. The veto threats don't change anything because they knew the bill was not going to pass. So now we know that the president would veto it. Now that we know that it's never going to get anywhere, that we can do a safe vote. And that's the point. Because the point was never to pass it. The point was to signal to donors, we tried, we hear you, we're on your side. They want to attempt on the record not to uh be uh partisan. They wanted to act like there was some type of political incense, some smoke without fire, a jester, not a revolution. The president gets to play tough guy, the Senate gets to play reasonable, and the donors always get to keep their supply chain comfortable. That is the triangle. You always have to look at that. That's the ecosystem. And you and me, the ordinary American, you are the background character holding the boom bike. People have to understand this. The tariffs fights is not happening in heaven. They're happening in your grocery bills, in your paycheck, in your rent, and your truck payments, and your medical costs. Every time a politician starts talking about being tough on trade, what they're really saying is I'm about to test how much economic suffering people are willing to tolerate. Tariffs don't hurt the elites, tariffs don't hurt politicians, tariffs don't hurt billionaires, tariffs don't hurt hobby uh the the lobbyists, tariffs hurt the guy running a small metal shop, the woman driving her kids home with groceries, the farmer watching a former competitor take his stuff to the market, the the uh manufacturer whose cost just went up, the the uh family whose budget is tighter than a size of a small shirt on a heavyweight lifter. And the Senate knows this. And the president knows this, and the donors know this, which is why when the donors said fix it, the Senate said, Yes, sir. Farmers are still victims. Again, let me sit with you in this moment. No group in the country gets played harder or more consistently than American farmers, the most patriotic people in the nation, the hardest working, the most self-sufficient, the least dramatic, and they make the they make this whole thing work. And they take a beating every single time politicians want to flex for an election year. The tariffs hit soybean farmers, they hit cattle ranchers, they hit peanut growers, they hit corn exports, and you know what? Farmers rarely ever can pray. They just pray, they plant harvest, and they hold on. But Washington knows that. And Washington noticed something this time. Farmers weren't mad, they were exhausted, and that exhaustion is dangerous for incumbents. So the Senate acted, not out of compassion, not because they learned anything, they acted out of political expediency, they acted out of fear. The real message is we're not carrying your political baggage anymore. That is the heart of it all. Now, the whole point of this is is the tariff strategy is unpopular, unworkable, unsustainable. We're done pretending to believe in it. The Senate wasn't challenging the president, they were Showing to the donors, it is now time for them to start distancing themselves from him and protecting themselves from the fallout. Because when the tariffs collapse and they will, everybody wants plausible deniability. Carlin was right. It's a big game. And not only are we not in it, we're not even playing. Carlin said it's a big club. And this club is not even a club anymore. It's a whole economic ecosystem engineered to keep you dependent while convincing you you are being protected. Wake up, people. You are not being protected. You are being managed. You are being marketed to. They're the fuel. They're the sacrifice. They're the background labor of a political economy that only pays attention to you when the polls drop low enough to trigger panic. But there's power in seeing the game clearly. You don't mistake this for despair. Clarity is power. Truth is liberation. Carlin gave the anger. I try to give you uh counsel or analysis and historical context. So you can see that it's uh a a big historical system. Once you understand how the mac the mechanics of the machine work, you can stop blaming yourself on the outcomes and you can start uh you could you can uh somewhat start feeling like you're supposed to feel. Like uh not like you're failing when the system is broken. You could stop participating in the political theater that was never written with you in mind to be anything more than the cogs in the machine that makes this thing work.
SPEAKER_10:Yeah.
SPEAKER_13:So uh I I'm actually gonna I want to do a whole show about this. Uh personally, but I but I had to talk about uh something else put out uh that broke. And I'm gonna I'm gonna get into it. And uh I'll just say this. The Senate didn't vote to save American everyday people today. They voted to save the American system. And that system, just like uh George Carlin said, it's a big game being played, and we're not involved. We're not involved. I I I challenge people to do something radical. I want you to go with some of your friends and have a game night. And I want you to play the game Monopoly and see how hard it is in a game to to to pick yourself up by your bootstraps when somebody monopolizes the entire system. I want you to do that and then try to apply that to real life, and then I think you will start to see how difficult it is, because it's a game. But it's a game based on real life. I'll be right back with more uh on the show. I have to get some order, cause this next topic, it deserves all my full attention, and um we we gotta we gotta talk about it.
SPEAKER_19:Quote, release the Epstein files. No, it's not just House Democrats saying that. Now it's apparently Donald Trump, too. In a stunning reversal, President Trump is telling Republicans to vote to release the files. Why? Well, because quote, we have nothing to hide, he says. He still calls it a Democratic hoax and says that the oversight committee can have whatever they are legally entitled to because he doesn't care. He just wants to focus on the economy.
SPEAKER_04:So take it together. Let's let it look at it, let anybody look at it. But don't talk about it too much because honestly, I don't want to take it away from us. It's really a Democrat problem. The Democrats were Epstein's friends, all of them. And it's a hoax, the whole thing is a hoax. And I don't want to take it away from really the greatness of what the Republican Party has accomplished over the last period of time.
SPEAKER_13:So let me go ahead and say why that's belonging. This is why. If the Republican Party knew the entire time that there was a group of pedophiles and they strategically only happened to be people from the opposition party, it would have been released a long time ago. Do you re they it would have leaked? Do you really think looking at politics and all the leaks and everything, they would have gave a good gosh darn about any of those damn victims? No. Why not? Because they don't give a damn. They don't give a if they don't give a damn about you and and and you not having any money, and they don't give a damn about those girls. Why? Because the elite wanted them, and the elite get what they want.
SPEAKER_19:So maybe the change of tune is because Trump saw the writing on the wall on this. Republican Thomas Massey has been leading the charge for this vote. Now you tell CNN that support is growing and that he is skeptical about Trump's about face there.
SPEAKER_07:Well, he got tired of us winning, and he decided to join us. Um look, they could have done this four months ago, and instead they fombus every bit of the way. But we're, you know, a little bit suspicious of this sudden turn of events, so we'll keep an eye on things. We're worried that maybe they'll try to muck it up in the Senate. I think it's going to be a very big vote. I think we'll get at least a veto-proof majority.
SPEAKER_19:Thomas Trump didn't want to be able to see how much release. Then he's sort of probably saying, well, just release the model, also saying, Well, only investigate the Democrats in the conversation being about Republicans and Democrats because to me it's just so much about my and the ways that we as a country, as a society, and institutions have failed these victims.
SPEAKER_20:I think it's going to be very helpful for those victims to be the president of the United States refer to the money as a hoax. I urge people watching to go and look for this PSA and some of those victims when I have a week.
SPEAKER_19:Let me just play a little bit.
SPEAKER_09:I'm 14 years old. I'm 16 years old. 16. 17, 14 years old. This is me. This is me. This is me when I met Jeffrey Upstead. This is me when I meant Jeffrey Upstein. It's time to bring the secrets out of the shadows. It's time to shine a light to the darkness.
SPEAKER_20:So that's very much Manahoa. It's it's very real. It has ruined the lives and scolm those women for the rest of their lives. You know, I think collectively we've got to stop fighting about this being Democrat or Republican. This was a bunch of rich men who felt entitled to do whatever the hell they wanted and publicly get away with it. And then almost did. But before the Meet Too movement in 2017, and before the Miami Hills say that July came, the truth is shamefully. The truthfully was one of his way to being accepted and being in respectable society. So these women deserve transparency, they deserve closure. I do think tomorrow's vote's going to be huge. I have called upon and texted some Republicans that I know asking them to vote yes, and they have all told me these among people who usually vote with Trump 100%, they've all told me they were voting yes, so I do think it's going to send a very strong message. Anna makes a really important point.
SPEAKER_13:You know, why is it that I I I agree with that 100%. And what makes this extremely uh important is Anna Navarro uh was somebody who was a Republican longer than Donald Trump was, but her entire life as a Republican. Donald Trump has been a Democrat longer than he was a Republican. She left the Republican Party because of Donald Trump and says she's still a type of Republican, but she is a never Trump Republican. So she basically codes as an independent which the party is going to move back to her. So the the the code is out now that people like Adna, now we're going to be listening to people like Anna Navarro, who is going to be saying the same thing that you could go look at the view because she was saying it for years.
SPEAKER_19:That Trump, if he says whatever, I mean, does he have something to hide? I don't know. No one knows. But putting that all aside, why can't he see this for what it is, which is a very real thing, not a hoax, with real victims and with a lot of people potentially involved in something, and none of whom have been held accountable.
SPEAKER_08:Well, the hoax is Democrats and others who have gone on television and either implied or worse that he had something to do with it. There's not a tremendous evidence that he had anything to do with it, but that's what they want people to believe. That's the narrative that they were trying to get up against the hoax. He's never said that what happened to them as a hoax in fact. There seems to be some tremendous evidence in here that Trump may have been one of the people that joined him. Umsting, which is one interesting according to some of the documents, apparently hated the Trump. The hopes is not independent. The hoax is what people are trying to implement according to the documents.
SPEAKER_19:The truth is some kind of independent on them. I mean I don't know that we know anything about Trump's environment. But I do know that he is named in these documents. I do know that he is named in a way that is that raises questions. Um that that is something that is real. Doesn't mean that he actually did something wrong with that we don't know. But if Trump has nothing to hide, and he's totally entitled to say that, to believe that, he should be clamoring for these documents for the full context to be released, but he's not doing that.
SPEAKER_13:So you And I want people to think about this. So first off, um I don't whatever that last guy is, you're gonna see in this clip that it does not matter. Everything he says is gonna be only a tax on people who are not in his party. He's a part of the problem. He does not want to solve the problem unless the problem only indicts people on the other side. That is nothing more than pure tribalism. I won't and and that's the part of the problem. People pretend like they have morals and values, pretend like they care about, I don't know, trans rights or some some other such nonsense. They pretend like they care about uh uh gays, they pretend like they care about and and they they have the moral high ground, and they always don't get taken seriously by people like me because they miss the low-hanging fruit of pedophilia. You were accusing for years the people who uh who were gonna had these predilections, they were gonna be gay. That's that was the big thing when I was growing up. Only gay people, you can't let gay people do this because they're gonna molest children. And meanwhile, it turns out that the massive pedophile sex ring was the elites. The elites for years. Mumbling silence. You can't get them to say a mumbling word about the morality of the people on their side. That these people were so brave when it wasn't anybody on their team. Go back and listen to what they were saying in the 90s and listen to what they're saying now and see that they're not serious. When I was growing up, Rick Santorum was the Republican Party. I don't know who these people are. When I was growing up, uh um i it it was it was the Republican Party was identified in such a way, uh Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, who I like to say he was an independent, uh Neil Bortz, Michael Savage, and uh who else was it? Michael Savage, Herman Cain, and um that that was basically who I grew up listening to. My brain itself was so right-wing coded because I was a um firm listener of AM radio. I grew up not knowing what I was listening to, so my brain programmed itself to be more conservative. I know what conservatism is. It was my foundational roots from the moment I got a radio all the way through middle school, all the way through high school. Right wing, right wing, right wing, hard right wing, neoconservative. I used to listen I used to believe Bill Crystal was right. That was my conservatism, David Brooks, uh uh that you know, etc. etc. I was to the right of uh Attila the Hun. And so then you I think I say it before, I voted for George Bush when everybody uh was voting for John Kerry. It's the first time I ever got to vote. Right? I lived to regret that vote because I put my feet where my vote was and I joined the United States military. And when I went to the Middle East, I said what everybody says, what the fuck are we doing here? And that's when my mind changed. And here was the problem. At that point in time, I just somewhat had an associate's degree. If I figured out they had no problem being there and I wasn't even finished with school, then I know for a fact these highly educated people from Yale and Harvard have to know. I know it. They wanted to be stupid. They get paid to be stupid. The truth of the matter is they know the the the whole game is they're trying not to give the game away that the rubes by the time they figure it out, everybody's gonna have their money. Shouldn't the formulation for conservatism by its very nature be if something doesn't work you don't do it? Shouldn't the formulation for conservatism be well that's kind of their business. We take care of our own stuff, you know, yada yada yada. Conservatism, I watched it as it i it it um it changed every election. George Bush is not John McCain. Uh John McCain is as different than than George Bush. And you can go back, you know, he's he's gone now. You can go back and look at the debates. Different, different people. The second somebody won, what it meant to be a conservative changed. Right? He lost. He lost, and then what happens? Mitt Romney gets a chance. Mitt Romney is different than George Bush, different ideology, different than uh different than the uh previous one, uh the late John McCain. He's now the definer of conservatism. Completely different ideology. They wrote books when they ran. You can go read it. It's old now. We should be past it. Do the research. It's w it's rec it's it's i it's recent history. Go do it. It's easy. Go get it. You don't want to read it? Go buy it on Audible. Listen to it at blah blah blah blah speed. Make it be done to it in a few hours. You tell me that's the same party. That doesn't work, he loses. The standard bearer becomes who? Donald Trump. Donald Trump is as different from he's not George Bush, different ideology. He's not John McCain, different ideology. He is not Mitt Romney, different ideology. He has democratic ideology because he was a Democrat when all those people were Republicans and they were losing. So the person that had to teach the Republicans to win spent his life as a lifelong Democrat. And Republicans did not stick to principles. They did what they always do. Democrats fall in love. Republicans fall in line. And if you don't believe me and you doubt what I'm saying, go look at the ideology of the standard bearers. See how they changed, and see how the one standard bearer now, Donald Trump, dumps on the previous standard bearers, and the Republican Party did not defend them. The same people that they wanted to be their standard bearers, they let get thrown under the bus. John McCain's a war hero. Love the troops yadada yada. And right until a troop, uh one of the most decorated, is running against Trump. Now all of a sudden he he can denigrate him. So I'm sorry. Donald Trump will leave and I will believe in forgiveness. I I will believe in redemption, but your credibility will take a long time for me to take you seriously again. I I I will say, you know what? I'm gonna still listen to what this person says only because I know that they have a great capacity to not be consistent, to be wrong, but I'm gonna listen to see if they actually stick to fundamental principles or if they put their finger in the air and go along with the wind and then call themselves that conservatives. You're not conserving anything if it changes every time you have a standard bearer. Yeah, conserving anything. You have always been, always been populist. You just called it conservatism. I hope I hope we're starting to get that here.
SPEAKER_08:So you believe after 10 years of this, of him being on the public stage, that if there was something to know, we wouldn't know it. But I now look, the issue is.
SPEAKER_19:I mean, you can make that argument about every single person who's implicated in these documents. Okay, that is not a legitimate argument. You just read the key. Every single person may or may not be implicated. The argument is if there was something to know, we would have known it. If there was something to know, yeah. I mean, it's in the documents. And people know what it's the issue.
SPEAKER_08:You use the word implicated. If someone's name appears in these documents, it doesn't necessarily mean they didn't mean wrong, but I'm sure that it's going to lead people to say, oh, they've been implicated. And so we'll we'll see what comes in the way to be able to do.
SPEAKER_20:Something criminal. Just the fact that um having email exchanges um does not mean that they've been something criminal. I do think it is wrong. The reason I think it's wrong is because by the time that we the emails that we were seeing in the scroll that was released um from um 2019 and 2018 and 2016, 13 months of us from the hundred early for one, after they have some of the one of the house of months, after they had one just to have a sex of London. And so these people, but not by the very same argument.
SPEAKER_19:You're you're basically saying if you're named in these documents, I guess you're saying that they should make a number.
SPEAKER_03:So easily gets you raised and eliminated because integrity and honesty pushed aside. And what is wrong? So easily gets you raised and eliminated because integrity and honesty and decency gets pushed aside and become just a partisan matter of Democrats versus Republicans. We know that gangsterism is promiscuous. It will lie with Democrats, Republicans, independent, leftist center, right Christian Jews, Catholics, Muslims, it's a human thing. And we have so many layers of corruption now, so many levels of outright lives that the issues of what is right and what is wrong has no footing at all.
SPEAKER_11:And the church said, Amen.
SPEAKER_03:You know what? I know it. Look at your talk common sense. That's Thomas Paine, brother. You invoke Thomas Paine. He's a foe of tyrants, a foe of autocrats, and a foe of.
SPEAKER_13:And I and I like uh what Cornell West says because we have the same type of uh ideological approach. You don't have to believe what I said. He just told you to go back and read what Thomas Paine said. Now, just for the record, you know, uh who Thomas Paine is, Thomas Paine was one of the people who was practically the silent founder of America, one of the silent founding fathers. You should go look that up. Thomas Paine wrote books that the founders ended up using themselves to to make this thing work. And so, because sometimes when we understand things, we have to get further away from them in order for them to make sense. I'm going to uh do this for you, okay? I d I know I I'm I know I I have a I have a philosophy that says it is not my job to do work for people. And then I realized, you know what? Damn it. I talk uh for for uh for a living. I'm gonna amend myself and I'm gonna start to make it my job so that you can always I'm gonna die one day, alright? That's why I make all this stuff free. That's why I already have set up to when I do die, the the program moves to archives. And the archives will be there forever so that one day somebody will stumble upon it. Because uh and then uh you'll know where where do I start? Where do I start? Uh uh uh w what would uh what what should I do? And so uh um when I when I uh I'm gonna have to do the work for you by letting you letting me describe books to you uh uh so I can give you my analysis on it. You know, and in the hopes that one day you'll stumble upon it. Because uh that you you talk about the foundation of the country, but you don't know the moral underpinnings of the country, that's a you thing. I w that's 100% what I believe. But if I know that you don't know, and I'm the sort of educator, and I'm refusing to give you the knowledge, that becomes a me thing. And so I I uh I literally have gotten so frustrated because I'm trying to pull people all the time from the abyss. I'm trying to pull people from their partisan hackery, and I'm trying to tell people you know what you believe. Are you so confident in your beliefs that you are willing to have your opinions challenged? And if you are not so confident in your belief that you are not willing to have your opinions challenged, you do not have a belief that is worth the thought. You have an ideology that you have decided you need to be so rigid that you cannot allow other information to get in unless they change your mind. You are displaying nothing more than a moral and intellectual cowardice, and you are barricading yourself by the uh herd of independent minds. That's that's the irony of it all. It's the irony of it all. Okay? Do you think you know something, you think you know what you know, you think your positions are true? Listen to other people tell you what they believe in a long form. And shut up. Then you'll see if your positions are actually true. So let me amend myself for you guys. You've changed my mind because I care. And I care so much about this country that I'm gonna do what I don't want to do and do the damn work for you. Thomas Paine the most important books that I think we should read was one was called Common Sense. That was written in 1776. That is the pamphlet that helped spark the American Revolution, a bold blueprint written from ordinary people. He basically told the colonies to stop being scared and to break up for Britain. Then he wrote a book called The American Crisis. Now that was in 1776 through 1783, a series of essays written during the Revolutionary War. This is where you get the famous line These are the times that tr that uh try men's souls. Washington held these read alouds to the troops to keep morale alive. Then he wrote Rights of a Man. That was from 1791 to 1792, and that was a defense of the French Revolution and a smackdown to monarchy and inherited power. The book made him a hero to the reformers and the enemy of the British elite. Then he wrote a book that made him son of grata, and that was called The Age of Reason. And that was in 1975 uh 1794 to uh 1795, his most controversial work. Why? Because it was a critique of organized religion, it was arguing for reason for deism and morality without church authority. So guess what? They loved him and all those other things. And then Christians hated it. Diaz loved it, and it pretty much killed his public reputation. They tried to write Thomas Paine out of history, and if you have never heard of him, they succeeded. Then he wrote a book called Agree Injustice, and that was in 1797. It was way ahead of his time. Paine argued for a taxing landowners to fund payments for the poor and the elderly, an early vision of Social Security. Then he wrote a book called The Rights of a Man. Again. And this was uh called this is sometimes called the Private Letters to George Washington. This was a his angry personal critique of Washington for abandoning him during the revolution. Now, I have just done the work for you. No analysis really, so you can just go back in time one day. If you you say you want to you love America, you say you're patriotic, you you care about the foundation of the country, go read one of the damn founders that was written out of the country. Because the bottom line is this. If you are scared of that, common sense, if you are uh tired of the American crisis, if you are angry at injustice, you should probably go back to the foundation and read Rights the Man. If you are questioning the age of reason, if you're thinking about the poor, Argary injustice, if you are learning the cause of truth, read the letters. Thomas Paine isn't a historian, project. He was a spiritual workout for the modern mind. And that's why you do it. Got it? Got it. Now we know. Don't d you you want to see what the founding fathers thought? Go read where they got their actual ideas from. Now that I did your homework for you, it is up to you to do the work.
SPEAKER_19:Bluming on this, on whether or not he would support the vote and the release of the documents.
SPEAKER_21:So, first of all, I think some documents that named him that came out last week actually he came off looking pretty good. Like he didn't like how Jeffrey Epstein was behaving and he cut off ties with him. I'm sure that's a good thing.
SPEAKER_19:That's what the documents said. The documents said that Jeffrey Epstein didn't like Trump, which we know, but they also had a falling out much earlier over essentially real estate in Florida.
SPEAKER_21:It's unclear what it was exactly over, but he did learn that Jeffrey Epstein really didn't like him, and that's what sort of the trend was in this document.
SPEAKER_13:That is a crock of BS. You can go look it up yourself. The fallout about the real estate deal was not about anything that Trump always says. It's already out. It was because Jeffrey Epstein accused Trump of money laundering. And because Jeffrey Epstein wanted that place, Donald Trump wanted it, Jeffrey Epstein was more than likely, remember, more than likely, a part of an intelligence agency. More than likely, Jeffrey Epstein was an asset of Mossad. Massad is the Israeli intelligence agency. So Jeffrey Epstein would have known things before Trump knew them because Trump had was not, as far as we know, a part of an intelligence agency. So Jeffrey Epstein accused President Trump of money laundering and and saying that he was only trying to get that house because he was going to give it to a billionaire. Everything I say here, I say it because you can go look it up. It's already proven. And guess what? Jeffrey Epstein was right. Because Donald Trump got the house from under Jeffrey Epstein and sold the house to guess what? A Russian billionaire. So when people used to yell about Trump and Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, it wasn't all smoke and mirrors, but because people are partisan hacks, they didn't want to look at the facts. You want to go look at the facts, then you'll see why Trump and Jeffrey Epstein really split up. But Trump does not want that to be out because Trump wants to pretend like, oh, it's because I thought he was a creep. No, it's because Donald Trump was in debt so much to the United States of America. The only banks that would give Donald Trump money were Russian banks. Now we've had it been released. We all seen it. Year after year after year, Donald Trump was losing money in America. And because of the United States tax system, he lost so much money that American taxpayers kept funding him while he was getting money from the Russian government. See what I'm saying? You get what I'm saying? This is why I'm doing this one topic shell here. Because guess what? Donald Trump was the model. He failed his way to success, not because of anything he did, because of government institutions propping him up. So it is what Martin Luther King said. It is socialism for the poor. And I'm doing this right out of my head. Martin Luther King said it is socialism for the rich. And pick yourself up by your bootstraps for the poor. If you want to read what Martha King thought about this, put it next to Thomas Paine, and see who was actually more in line with them with uh with uh the American values, then I'm gonna do this for you. Because these books are cheap now because these people have been long dead. You go and get Martha King's book called Where Do We Go From Here? Chaos Our Community, that's Martha King's book on economics. Put that next to the Founding Fathers book about economics and see who was more aligned with what the American Foundation was actually about. That's the challenge. Read Thomas Paine's economic book and then pick up Martha King's book after. And think about what you know today of what Americans want and see who was more aligned. That's the challenge. You you you believe in your your ideas are correct? Do the work. Let's get back to the this thing here, whatever this this is.
SPEAKER_21:I think also, you know, Trump is very good at reading his base. And I have to say, I think there's a real divide here between the voter base and then the online content creator of the creators of the right. Those people are obsessed with Jeffrey Epstein. And a lot of Republican lawmakers are very much enthralled to this online energy. But the actual voting base, I think they really don't care about that. They care about immigration and they care about affordability. And I think Trump felt that this is now gonna waste a whole week talking about this thing that is, you're right. It's important to talk about it. Justice for the victim, of course, is extremely important. But a lot of people get caught up in that dragment. Alan Dershowitz is a perfect example. He's a person who was named by one of the victims, and she had to recant, but he never got his reputation back. And so I think the question is to make the Jeffrey.
SPEAKER_13:Ugh, yuck. And this is why that's a crock of shit. Because i if you go look at how Donald Trump won the election, it was all about trans, trans, trans, trans, trans, trans, trans. Now go look at how many people are in America. I'm gonna I you know what? The hell with it. I'll I'll do it for you. The the amount of people who are trans in the United States of America is less than two percent of the population. Less. But guess what? They c it Donald Trump made the majority of Americans get so uh focused on less than two percent of the population that he won. So no, no, no, no, no, no. That dog won't hunt. Period. You ran on something that was so small because you knew that American people would would uh take it. They'd sniff that oh, they just wanted to be a part of that. You ran on uh trans people in college sports. Now go look it up for yourself. Go look it up for yourself. Uh uh over five uh about five hundred thousand or so athletes inside of curr the uh NCAA. The number of trans athletes less than twenty. An entire election mood on twenty people. Don't tell me that the old D is just reading the base. Nope. Nope, he's manipulating the base. So if you don't believe me, go look at the numbers yourself. But I'm gonna do something for you. I'm gonna do the whole work for you. Because my next thing I'm gonna put is I'm gonna do an entire show about that issue. And then challenge me on it. Go look it up for yourself and see if my analysis holds up and stop being rude by rubes. You you believe it? Challenge yourself to unbelieve it by seeing the numbers. You got manipulated. It's over. He won. You can tell the truth now. You got manipulated. Come back, come back. I I I want you to be in truth land. It is not my desire that anybody perish. You have to come to the light. But in order to come to the light, you have to repent. Repent. And let's get back on the right road. You can't just keep doubling down. All you're doing is lying. While you're calling yourself a Christian, you're doing the you're breaking the the one of the easy ones to remember. Thou shalt not lie. Period. You got more loyalty to God? You got more loyal to tr loyalty to Trump. Because the evidentiary record that you have provided me over this long period of time is you have more loyalty to power. And now that's on you. My the standard that you claim to have, that you claimed that was unchanging, on the Bible, yum, yum. And I sit back and I watch, had you change it. Year after year after year after year after year after year after year, when it's only politically expedient. I don't take you seriously. I take you seriously as a human. Take your ideas, I don't take your ideas seriously. I listen to them to see if you're trying to get someplace to seriousness and welcome you. But you gotta grow up. It's grown-up time.
SPEAKER_20:There's three Republican women, uh, Nancy Mays, Lauren Bober, Marjorie Taylor Green. I'm not a fan of any of them. However, those women I think are not looking at this through a political prism. I think they're looking at this as women. Because we all know that before me too, um, a lot of people thought it was okay to sexually harass women and to sexually abuse women. Particularly if you were rich and empowered and entitled in this country and get away with it. It's not just Jeffrey Epstein. A bunch of Jeffrey Epstein's and rich men, that's what he was coming to. Another person that I gave a man accommodated to.
SPEAKER_19:And he's reminding them who's boss.
SPEAKER_05:Mega was my idea. Mega was nobody else's idea. I know what Mega wants better than anybody else.
SPEAKER_19:And Mega wants to see a company drive one person not traveling that line is Tim Cruz who has gone on and public. With some of them coming forward to defend Carlton under free speech rounds, and others accusing him of elevating a corner of the money.
SPEAKER_05:We mentioned great interviews with Dr. Crumbs. But if you want to demonstrate them, let them, you know, people have to decide. Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_19:People have to nominate. Thank you, Mr. President. Now, there's growing speculation that Ted Cruz is actually taking up a number one for president. He threw some cold one on the speculation today, but many of you cruise to have with Carlson and the job vice president. J.D. has a closing Carlson's. And someone who's seen as the front runner of the Republican ticket in 2028. And someone as as you have spent time with Trump and about his politics, he is not going to be the person to lead the future of the Republican Party in 2028. And this extension debate is happening right now, and there are also these cracks showing up about what actually do macro people believe. Are they pro-H1Bs against it? Are they um for quote-unquote free speech and what Trump is doing? Where does Trump come from?
SPEAKER_08:Well, there's a lot of uh issues you raised uh in this segment here. I did see the president uh condemning actually when we discussed the Marjorie Taylor Greene uh issue a little bit. You know, what happened with her is very simple. She was wanting to run state one in Georgia. He privately and discreetly sent her a copy of a hole that he had seen, and she was waving on it, was not gonna work out. And ever since that moment, he did her a favor potentially by saving her from a humiliation. But ever since that moment, she's opposed him on bombing the movie rebels, on bombing around, she's opposed him on importation, she's gone on you know TV shows and attacked him, and so because he sort of betrayed her in her mind on that political moment, I mean he did her a favor, she's become an opponent on this other stuff.
SPEAKER_19:Because that's the reason that he's really bombing, you know, only other ripple against her. Only other issues, though.
SPEAKER_08:Um, I some of his comments about one day is I mean, I think she does it was maybe he's wanting people to see how crazy and mindful of this is. This is the most provisionable pro-Jewish administration we've ever had. We cannot argue with other women's. The president members who are this Israel, and the president has supported Israel, and the president has um supportive of Jewish Americans and Jewish people. He cannot argue with other women. So I think this is one of the noble batteries. Um, but he obviously isn't the dinner. He's not a woman, but he didn't know the game, and he's not a woman. This this is the most problems real Jewish people.
SPEAKER_19:He's never done anything to support his real support of Jewish people and Messers' administration. I don't think uh just to be clear, Nick French's problem is not just that he's anti-Israel, he's also um mild bigot as well, and I think as well, and I think that is also problematic. It's not just about that one issue.
SPEAKER_03:Well, first, Mr. Scott, pro-Israel and pro-Jewish are not the same things.
SPEAKER_13:Would you uh thank God that they have a diverse panel? I actually like this show because Rabbi Phillips lets different people go back and forth. So I'm hoping that people will start to somewhat uh break their their their their their bubble. Because let me tell you what it's about. It's the same thing. It's the money, it's the money. It's always the money. It doesn't matter if you're Russian and you want influence, you want influence. How do you get influence? Money. Oh, interesting. That's it. What do you what do you what do you think? Because because Israel is a country, they don't pay people, they're the only country on the planet that doesn't pay out politicians? The the it's anti-Semitism thing is bullshit. It's a smokescreen. It's a way they can stop you from criticizing them by saying, Oh, if you say that Jewish people uh uh get give have give people money to do what they say, it's anti-Semitic. Oh. Or did I say that exact same thing about every other person because I have a systemic critique of the system and I see the monopolization, and the monopolization is showing everybody else how to do it, and so if Russia's doing it and it's working, what makes you think Israel's not gonna do it and it works? This is not as difficult as people want to make it. You under have to understand when you're being lied to. You know how you understand? You actually think that countries that that uh China, that Russia see what the US United States is doing, and they just say, Oh well, you know, we're gonna do it ethically. No. This is a fight over who's gonna be the dominant superpower, because if you are a student of history, you know all empires eventually collapse. Eventually collapse. France Massive Empire, Massive Empire. Read your history. Collapsed Britain, Massive Empire, Massive Empire, thirteen colonies, yada yada, colonize everything. Well, go go do good go good look at the history. And of course, I like I've said before, I'm gonna do the work for you and do it, but I'm telling you, challenge me on it. Collapsed, owned us, India, etc. etc. etc. All the the the the real co uh settler colonial societies collapsed. Go go if if that's too close for you, too close to home, go back. Rome, Empire, collapsed. You know why Rome lasted so long? If you want to study history, because Rome kept evolving. There was a period of the emperors, the Caesars, there was a period where it was run by the Senate, there was a period where it was run by the warriors. That's why Rome lasted so long. Because they evolved and a lot and and any time that you were conquered by a Roman, you immediately got the full rights of everybody else in Rome. So that way they could have loyalty. Did you know that? Don't believe me. Go look it up. Anyway, uh, let's get through this.
SPEAKER_08:Jewish administration we've ever had. Period. You cannot argue it otherwise. The president knows who our ally is, it's Israel, and the president has supported Israel, and the president has uh been supportive of Jewish Americans and Jewish people around the world. He cannot argue otherwise.
SPEAKER_03:Um just priestly voices. So the school of Israeli government and it's not just about one issue. Well, of course, Brother Scott, pro-Israel and pro-Jewish are not the same thing. There's a whole host of Jewish brothers and sisters who come out of a rich prophetic Judaic tradition that's critical of Israeli government and critical of Israeli policy. So don't fuse all of those together that Israel speaks from homologists. That's just not true. Do you agree with that? That's fine.
SPEAKER_13:Guess it partisan head.
SPEAKER_19:And maybe it is true that Trump is in tune with the real voices, but but it seems like the future of who's gonna lead the Republican Party is in part being sorted out by some of these so-called online voices.
SPEAKER_21:To my view, and I have not seen any counter-event incidents, that the less online campaign always wins. And what we're seeing right now is a big medium turf war for conservative viewers. And a lot of this has to do with Charlie Kirk's assassination because what he was doing, we all we realized now, he was able to both talk to politicians and to donors and to the online comment section, if you will, and to the online influencers and hold all of them together in a coalition. Now there is a turf war. And the problem is that a lot of that turf is not American, it's not Republicans, it's not conservatives, and it's not voters. What is that? It's I mean, the whole world has access to the internet.
SPEAKER_19:So who do you think it has the best non-online, you know, feel for the party? Well, I will talk to you.
SPEAKER_13:Anyway, so that's about the first thing she said that I agree with. This is people who are intelligent knowing that the Trump coalition will not be there after he leaves, and they are already jocing for who is going to run the party. Because when Trump leaves, it there's going to be this wonderful thing we we we uh we uh people in the military call a power vacuum. When the United States packed up and left Afghanistan, everybody said, All right, they said they're leaving. That means we get to be in charge now. So the other person said, like hell you will. If it's true over there, it's true over here. It doesn't have to be this complicated. What is most personal is often most universal. Let's get back to the show, I write. Ugh.
SPEAKER_21:Oh, you there are very few Republican politicians who I have seen who have not come out against Nick Fuentis. Now, the ones who haven't are notable, right? Like JD Vance, like Katie Vance. Which brings me back to how online are you, right? Do you feel that you can upset the groups, or are you gonna say this is not what it means to be a conservative?
SPEAKER_20:To be the successor, you're gonna be going to be the successor. Obviously, the ambition is not gone. I think I think this weekend was um we saw the consequences of the elections two weeks ago. Republicans in some. And I think it's why so many Republicans were willing to whip him on this interesting thing. I think it's one way this weekend, he went back on some of the times, particularly on food, because he's hearing the message on people affording the countries. I think it's one way this weekend, he's also made a having a hard time following him on Venezuela, and whether he's going to bump them or negotiate with them. I think you know, I can't figure it out. So I I think he is coming to terms with the fact that it's the beginning of lame duck season, and there's all of these youngins already angling to see who's going whose turn is going to be next. And uh, you know, you know, Ted Cruz has left Cancun and Puerto Vallarta long enough to put himself in the mix.
SPEAKER_13:There I say and I and and when I when I say that I'm gonna try to do the work for you, Trump and all these people keep saying, Oh, you know, the prices are going down. I went to the store, Derole McLean. I have an app call, fetch. I get points when I take a picture of my receipt. I'm gonna show you the a picture. I'm gonna put it on social media, I'm gonna figure out how to put it with this episode. I'll maybe I'll just post it and look for it. And I'm gonna and I won't tell you what the price are. You're gonna get to see with your own eyes the number of items that I got from Food Lion and what I paid. And then you can decide for yourself if the prices are going down. You can decide for yourself inflation, right? But I'm doing the work for you, and a picture is worth a thousand words.
SPEAKER_19:Say this is the beginning of the run for 2028? I don't know. Next for us, a new city on the edge tonight, as ice agents swarm, Charlotte, North Carolina. We're seeing small businesses closing after school programs cancel, one raid happening as workers decorate a Christmas tree. But how many taken into custody are actually criminals? We'll tell you when we come back.
SPEAKER_13:Okay, so before I I let them um get back to it to this thing, uh I I just have to say this uh about the Marjorie Taylor Green thing. And and I want to do it like this. Honestly. We have to talk about the fact that Trump and Marjorie Taylor Green's fallout is because it is a political divorce. It tells you more about the marriage than the breakup. This isn't just about two people who don't all of a sudden get along. That's not what's happening here. This is the unraveling of the entire political ecosystem that it was built on nothing more than vibes and adrenaline and not facts. It was built on adrenaline, it was built on grievance, it was built on the illusion of loyalty. And now here's the truth that nobody wants to say out loud. Marjorie Taylor Greene didn't change. Trump did. So she is the same fire breathing, a titching chasing, conspiracy theorying, shooting from the hip politician she was when she first was embraced by Donald Trump. She didn't suddenly become more extreme. She just stopped being useful. She's the female of Donald Trump. Period. She's Trump's entire political the entire political body. She she she her her entire political life runs on a very simple rule. People are either assets or their exits. And guess what? She's not like that. That's that's a Trump thing. Trump believes that people are either access or their exits. There is no in-between with him. There is no middle ground with Donald Trump. There is no no. We've been through this so much. Then you should see the model. Don't look at the historical analysis. Look at all the people he broke up with. Look at all the people who were loyal to him that that uh get fired. Loyalty does not mean anything to him as long as you You don't have the freedom of speech for Donald Trump. I'll put it that way. He's like most people in the country. They just want to have their ears tickled. And that's fine, because that's how I know we're in the last days, because I read this little book called the Bible, it says, on in the end, times people will be have their ears tickled versus listening to sound teaching. I knew what's gonna happen. I'm a Calvinist. I'd already read about it. Period. I knew. Who is complicit? The seminaries complicit. Now they're trying to hide the hand. Can talk about everybody else, not anybody on their side. Easy. They're supposed to be the moral authority. Not moral authority, partisan acts. Period. Anyway, so the truth is it's just this. And and and that's just that. That uh because Trump doesn't have a middle ground and he's leaving, and he's not on the ballot, and they know he can never be on the ballot again, that that they can't Attached themselves to him, and you could see it that there is no no with Trump. We've been through too much. We must well you know, we shouldn't part ways. Trump treats politics just like real estate. If a building stops producing value, he sells it, he demolishes it, and he ghosts it. And Marjorie Taylor Green, bless her heart on this one, actually believed she was different. Marjorie Taylor Baleen thought she was an inner circle person. She thought she was indispensable. She thought she was riding shotgun on the MAGA Express and she'd never have to buy another political ticket again. But here is the lesson. If you ride with Trump long enough, you'll eventually find out the car only has one damn seat. When he was out of power, she was golden. A loud megaphone, a shock thrower, a walking outrage factory who kept the movement hot and angry. But once Trump seized power again, she was becoming a distraction, dragging the brand, stepping into fights that didn't help him, not American, not Republican, not the movement. She turned on him an ally a liability because you have to know something. I'll tell you, I'll let you in on a secret about political movements built on personality instead of principle, instead of ideology. When the emperor feels like he's threatened, the status starts to get thrown off the balcony. Trump wants control and perpetuity. Marjorie Taylor Green wants attention and perpetuity. Those two things cannot coexist forever. Eventually, one has to dominate the other. And Trump does not like to share oxygen, let alone power. Got it? And Marjorie Taylor Green, she made one mistake. One mistake. Every overcompetent psychic makes it it all the time. In the third act of a bad superhero movie, she thought she was the co-star. She thought she was the franchise. She forgot she was the cast for the chaos, not the star. So now we got this political breakup being played out on national TV. Two people who who sang duets, now throwing verses at each other like a a hip-hop rap battle that nobody asked for. And the Republican Party, they're sitting back in the back of the church like quiet little cousins, quiet little church mouses at a messy family funeral, whispering, oh Lord Jesus, what now? What should we do now? Whose side should we take? Because the moment that the movement of Margaret Taylor Greene represents, that's what that that would have to be the future. Because Marjorie Taylor Greene represents the fire. She represents rage. She represents conspiracy. She represents spectacle. And the and if you give it to her, the movement is still there. It's still loud. It didn't disappear just because Trump stops running the show and because Trump stops returning her phone calls. And Trump is smart enough to know that. But what this fallout reveals, what it exposes with clarity of an X-ray, is that the Mega Coalition was never a coalition at all. It was a gravitational feel. Everything orbited around one person, and it was Trump. Everything served Trump. Everything exited at the pleasure of Trump. And Green is finally the smart one because she doesn't have party lines. She has actual ideology. And so she can still do what she always did and actually say the truth because you thought she was a conspiracy theory, so she had more freedom. And the second you think you're the star in a conspiracy theory, oh, eventually it's gonna come for you. So the second you think you're in the star in your own right, the sun reminds you, sorry, I am the one who controls the light. So this fallout is not personal, it's structural, it's inevitable. This is what happens when two people who survive on spectacle finally realize that they have started to compete for the same spotlight. Trump wants supremacy. Marjorie Taylor Greene wants rev you know to be to keep being relevant. She wants to be a part of that power vacuum. And there isn't the only one room for one narcissist in chief at a time. So here's the actual headline to everything that you're gonna hear. Remember this. Marjorie Taylor Green thought she was Trump's heir. It turns out she was just Trump's hobby. And when Trump got bored, she got burned. Point. And yes, I'm I'm on fire today. I was on vacation in the Bahamas. Uh I had a lot of things, a lot of thoughts going on, and so we're coming back in on fire.
SPEAKER_19:Erupting on the streets of Charlotte, North Carolina tonight, the latest target of President Trump's immigration crackdown. But the man says he's a US citizen with real ID. The officers eventually did let him go, and this new video shows Ice approaching two landscapers prepared to put Christmas lights on a tree. Agents left after the homeowner confronted them. Agent says that it arrested 140 people in the corporation, and the residents are trying to understand why.
SPEAKER_00:And then these committed races, people are in these people that are not changing criminal changing breakers like me.
SPEAKER_19:Forty four of those 130 were um criminals, according to DHS. That's 30%. So the past would only not. I'm pretty curious how this is gonna play in a place like Charlotte.
SPEAKER_03:And the same that terrorizing and precious thing now. This is this is something when they have a massive, massive indictment on the nature. On moral ground, on religious ground, on a spiritual ground. And do we do this simply given to just politics in the trunk in a minimal way? It means we more focus on the innocent ones who are being violated.
SPEAKER_19:This is um great moving though. He is talking today their strategy going after uh immigrants. And um, as you can see in some of these videos, I mean, they're in places where there are people of Hispanic descent, and whether or not they actually are illegal immigrants or not, they're they're being picked up. But here's my according to Bobino.
SPEAKER_06:What we're finding is um agreements looking to go into people's homes, or in those Christmas money, like we see in this video here. How do you know who these people are? Do they have a criminal record maybe in their home country? Who are these people? Too many times we're finding that some very, very disreputable individuals are seeking work in people's homes, in their partners, in other money. We don't want those people in this money.
SPEAKER_19:I don't understand how you can justify just randomly sweeping people up and then saying, well, maybe we might find one person who has an illegal record and then we're gonna paint them all at the same brush.
SPEAKER_21:When Donald Trump was campaigning, he said, when we get elected, we're going to conduct the largest deportation uh um campaign in American history. Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_13:Yes, he did. And he he that's true. He did. It wasn't a shocker.
unknown:Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_21:He did not say the worst of the worst. And the truth is I'll be he said every illegal immigrant in America is either working, in which case they are driving down the wages in an industry because American members can pay them less, or they are living off the government, in which case American taxpayers are paying for them to live here illegally. Both of those are unacceptable, which is why in every single call that's come out in the last year, a majority of Americans support not deporting the worst of the worst, but deporting every single illegal migrant, including American school from a few weeks ago, which found 51% of the government.
SPEAKER_19:You're making it sound like it is a huge majority. 51% of this bigger majority of people, which we do want to come to target the worst of the worst people, like legal simple samples of them, big also being picked up. He was a window, which is real ID. Which is the real IDs. Documentation, real IDs. Just look at the real ID and determine whether it belongs to him as opposed to shattering his window and arresting him. It's a simple question.
SPEAKER_08:What would happen to me?
SPEAKER_19:Yeah, but but maybe she gave him my windows. What would happen to me? I think that we also just need to acknowledge that there are uh different versions.
SPEAKER_11:Follow the laws of the land. Interesting, interesting, interesting.
SPEAKER_13:Hmm. I'm I wonder how many people got pardoned in the Trump administration and in the Biden administration who did not follow the laws of the land. Huh. They didn't follow the laws of the land, and uh they were what happened to them? Oh they were found guilty by a jury of their peers and then they had the right amount of money and they got pardoned. Oh, don't worry. Don't worry. I plan to do it for you, and I'm gonna do a one-person show about the law of the land crap and how it is fake. It's fake. It's fake. The the rule of thumb is this the laws are for the poor. The laws are for the people who don't have enough money to get out of things. And there's a different system for people who have things. You don't believe me? It's well past this. I want you to go look at the documentary 13. Challenge you to go look at the documentary 13. It has both conservatives and Democrats in the documentary, including the former Republican Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, who helped write the legislation on some of this stuff and says it was wrong. He now sees that it was wrong because it criminalized these people this way and these people this way when they were using fundamentally the same thing, but because this thing rich people did and this thing poor people did. Mmm so don't take my word for it. Take the person who wrote the legislation who's still alive. He has his own podcast. His name is Newt Gingrich, he's a conservative, former conservative speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, bombastic just like Trump. Except because he is no longer in power now, he's free to say whatever. So we just have to take him at his word that he didn't know if he was right or not. Now what what can I do? I can't read the person's heart. All I can say is that he says himself the legislation that he helped draft and push through because he was a very skillful and intelligent politician, he said he was wrong. Alright. There we go. Hmm. Now, the fact that he was wrong, did people did those people get out of jail? No. They obeyed the laws of the land. And the law of the land, the for the person that re wrote the law says, I was wrong. How many people, how many of those people got pardoned?
SPEAKER_10:Hmm.
SPEAKER_13:Why don't you go and uh look that up? That'll be fun.
SPEAKER_19:But secondly, if you were stopped and a and a and a cop stopped you and was like, are you a US citizen? And you showed them the ID that you had on you, which is your you real idea, your driver's license. And if we roll down my window, then we're gonna arrest you and we're gonna figure it out later.
SPEAKER_08:What would you say? If I fail to roll down my window, if I didn't listen to the instructions of law enforcement, I'd have whatever was coming at me because it's stupid. Just say yes, I'll roll it down my window. Let me show you my ID. Failure to follow simple instructions gets people in trouble all the time. By the way, human trafficking problem, major massive problem.
SPEAKER_19:Human water number people.
SPEAKER_20:He takes a woman with a TPS. Because he didn't want with the kingdom of communities and places like Pennsylvania and places like Monsona. He has lost so much of that one. Why? Because the people are looking at these stories and they realize that this is racial profiling. You realize that if you look like me, I'm asking my body, maybe one of the free farm, maybe one of the standing from a home people, standing on the wrong place, the team on the free. People who supported the pump, who supported him, whose family members, mental dumb, tiny, some of the Cubans are being sick. People who supported the company wanted him to get rid of the gang members, and instead he's getting rid of people who are decent, hardworking folks, some of them who weren't even under some legal status or temporary protection. And it's having a political coming up next.
SPEAKER_19:A federal judge is blasting the DOJ's handling of its case against James Comey. It'll be enough, though, to have that case blown out altogether. Special guests is going to join us at the table. That's next.
SPEAKER_13:All right, let's get right back at this. So look, so both people get it. I'm trying to do the work for you, but not the I don't want you to be a partisan hack here. So let's get to some facts. Okay? Okay, can we can we do that now? Alright. So here we go. This is the truth. We have to talk about it this way. What's going on in Charlotte is not going on because it's some little local story. Something heavy is moving, and if you were paying attention, you can feel the ground shifting under your feet. Charlotte, Queen City, woke up this week, under the boots of federal power. Ice and Border Patrol rolled in like they were invading Fallujah, not walking through neighborhoods where toddlers play, where uh Hispanics whoever sit on the porch, where uh people are just try to get to work without fear. They came in masked, armored, unannounced, and suddenly the city wasn't a city. It became like a warning label. And let me tell you something. Everybody knows I used to do law enforcement. Guess who I did it for? The federal government. Guess what I never did? Wore a mask. Even when I was doing something hard, even if I was doing something on camera, even if somebody pulled out their phone and started recording me. I would they would why? Because everything I was doing was legal and I did not care if I was being recorded, because you recording me is actually providing eviden evidentiary evidence for me. You I know because I did it. It is constitutional to guess what film police officers. You don't want to believe me? Go back and listen to libertarian who congresses with Republicans, Judge Napolitano, and see what he says about it. Very conservative. And it's gonna be cool because when he said it, it predated Donald Trump. It happened long before Donald Trump was even a whisper. So go listen to what he said then and listen to what he says now. Partisan hackery. Anyway, operations like uh Charlotte's Web, uh or whatever the whatever they're they're calling it. But the web isn't about catching criminals, it's about catching everyone in the net of fear. Within 48 hours, they're arrested. Exactly. 130 people. Yes, some were criminal records. Yes, a couple of gang members. I'm not minimizing that. Real threats and evil responses, but let's be grown-ups for about two seconds. When you when you have a target operation and it shuts down the entire immigrant business quarters, empty school districts of uh 30,000 kids, and has lawful residents hiding in their homes, that is not targeted. That is terror with paperwork. And we all know that the wildest part is this Charlotte's mayor, Charlotte's city council, the school's official, nobody knew it was coming. No coordination, no heads up, no briefing, just federal agents showing up like a storm nobody predicted, except the folks in Washington who designed the weather. Now listen, law enforcement has its place. I only spent the majority of my life doing it so much that I'm about to turn 40. Now from the age of twenty years old, I'm gonna tell you something here. From the age of 20 years old all the way until I turned 36, I did the same job, just in different capacities. I went from the Department of the Navy law enforcement. Not gonna get into what I did. I went from the Department of Navy law enforcement. I was a master at arms. Then I went into the department of homeland security. Guess what I did? Law enforcement. Then I worked for Federal Protective Services. Guess what I did? Law enforcement. Then I went as a private contractor. Guess who I was working for on those contracts? Well, I made a lot of money. Federal government. Now, so I know. I know law enforcement has its place. I did it for all of my life until 36 years old, where I decided I have now I can breathe, I can relax, because I did all the work for the federal government. I'm not telling you this as some lymptard who doesn't think that we need police. We need good ones. And you know what good ones do? They obey the law even when it's difficult. If you believe you should obey the laws, obey the la the people who are in charge of enforcing the law should start by the example. They should obey the law. They should identify who they are. They should you you are preaching to the world to respect your authority. Lead by example. When it's hard, lead by example. Guess what we used to do? Guess what we used to do? I'm gonna I'm gonna I I'll tell you this one thing. So in uh in Guatanamo Bay, it is actually it is actually regularly known that if you go to Gitmo, what is going to happen is the people will wait for you to get to work. They will sit there, they'll pass a pot around, and they'll all poop in it. That's what they do. And they wait, hold on, sorry, and and they uh they they sorry about that, and they and they wait for you to come to work and they th throw poop on your uniform that you spent all hours ironing to make sure you look square away. The second you walk over there and you they'll say you'll say, Come out of the cell, Ahmed, nada boomba, and they throw poop on you. And guess what we were trained to do while somebody has thrown several things of human feces on us that don't respond. And guess what we did? A lot of the times, the good people, we did not respond. We walked off. We went and got the shots to make sure everything was okay, right? We we we uh we we we prepared for that by having different uniforms. You had to work within the law. You wanna know what uh some people how we figure that out? How how we work within the law to uh get our little revenge? We didn't clean our uniforms. Ah, why? Because guess what's gonna happen later on that day? With little Mr. the poopies in the cell. It's chow time and they're gonna wanna eat. And now you're gonna serve them their food with all their little poop on it. That's how you work within the law to get revenge. You don't retaliate, you take it, you know the law, you know you're not supposed to beat them up. Why? Why? Why can't we why can't I beat up somebody who threw poop on me? When when I mean, shouldn't I be able to No, why why would I beat them up? They are locked in a cell. Secured. The action that they were actually going to to to do it's done. It's done. Guess what? I'm in no danger. They're all still behind the cell. All of them are still behind the cell. They are all all of them. They are all still they they I was only going through because let's say they were about to get their milk. Milk time, they're about to get a piece of cornbread, something like that. So now it's my turn. Oh, you got me right when I was bringing out the first tray, and you guys are willing to laugh about it, because uh why not supposed to do this and you you're used to fasting for forty days because you know the Muslims, that's who they were, they fast. So not eating is good easy for you. Right. But this was this is what I'm gonna do. If you're smart, hint, hint. I don't respond because I'm not in any threat. They don't got another poop bucket waiting for me, and if they did, guess what? You don't change clothes You walk off like you're gonna change clothes, you get your composure, and then you serve them their meals and the poop that they just threw on you. And now, hmm, who won? I everything I did was in the bounds of the law. But I did it legally. I got my revenge. They got they got what they were gonna do to me. I was in a danger. So I did not respond. They and uh I I'll say uh some people uh didn't respond. Yeah. Because I'm a thinker uh because some people think. Uh so the the thinkers they uh say, yeah, this is how this is gonna work. I'm gonna stay in this, and I'm not even gonna go shower. I'm gonna keep serving the meals. And you you wanna fast. Oh, I'm gonna make sure that you wanna fast. Because you did this to me, and I still gonna serve you your food because that's in the law. Have fun with your food. That's how you do it. That's how you do it. You can't do that if you don't know the damn law. Now that's a practical personal example that I normally never talk about. I actually find it fairly corny when people talk about their military service. I believe in freedom of speech, so I don't do it. It's just not my thing, it's not my thing. Why? Because I don't want people to to to use my military service and think that that means that I am making arguments from authority. Nope. That and and so I don't even bring it up. I it's very rare. But you pe uh people are so impressed with arguments from authority, I am literally gonna change my position. Um there's a there's a conservative um guy, uh his name escapes me. He he sits down and debates on college campuses, uh Crowder, Louder Crowder, and his his shirt just says, Change my mind, change my mind, change my mind. Well, Louder Crowder has uh he's got an effect on me now. I'm gonna be doing what I'm doing right now often because I'm daring I I'm I'm begging you guys to change my mind. I'm gonna have conspiracy theorists on the show, allegedly, and let them talk in long form. Why? That's how you that's what you do. We're gonna say what we believe, we're gonna say what we disagree, yada yada yada. I'm gonna let you hear 'em. And that way, you have an ever dish rate record of what they believed, whether they're right, where they're wrong. Gotta do it. I have to do it. I have to let I have to do it. Why? I can't just say let I can't I can't just let intelligent people that I agree with on the show, because I have to show you guys how to do it. Because you just won't. I don't understand it. It drives me crazy. Why must you die? Why won't you live? So, I don't know. I mean, I do know. But but you know, I don't know. Wink wink. But so now I'm going to do what I did want to do, and I'm going to back up some days. And you're gonna get free counseling. You're gonna get free psychology. You're gonna get free philosophy. For the greater good. Anyway.
SPEAKER_14:So I said all that to say this. Law enforcement has its place.
SPEAKER_13:Order matters. Nations need borders. All that is true. But let me tell you what else is also true. When the government operates in secrecy in the shadows, it stops protecting people and it starts controlling them. And that's what Charlotte felt like this week. A community suddenly afraid to go to work, parents afraid to send their kids to school, citizens not immigrants, citizens recording Border Patrol, smar uh uh smashing car windows because they didn't like the tone of a driver who asked, Why are you stopping me? That isn't good policing. It's just bad policing. It's bad policing. That is signaling something else. It's signaling to an immigrant community, don't get too comfortable here. You you you be why? Why because your very presence is conditional. We don't need your cooperation, we don't need your permission, your zip code is no longer a shield, and the fallout is this you can smell the fear like rain on a pavement. Business is close, churches turned into sanctuaries again. Guess what? We're back in 2017 vibes. Kids stay at home. I thought you guys didn't like uh shutting down schools, etc etc. Workers disappear from job sites and the people cheering all the raids? Oh, that's very easy for you. Lockdowns for thee, but not for me. But anyway, they don't live in the neighborhood that's being raided, so it's easy. Now let me say the part that makes people feel uncomfortable. It isn't about safety. This wasn't about criminals, it's not about protecting the homeland. This was about optics. This was about flexing. This is about political theater dressed up as federal authority. And if you can't see it, it's because you don't want to see it. The administration has been trying to prove it can be tough on immigration, and nothing says tough like sending armored agents into a city far, far from a border and terrorizing whole communities and then calling it necessary operations. You know what Charlotte proved? It proves George Carlin was right. There's a big game happening and you ain't playing. And Charlotte this week the game was fear. Fear is policy, fear is messaging, fear is governing philosophy. Let me close with this. Charlotte is not a border city. Charlotte is America. Diverse, complicated, growing, hopeful, flawed, but trying. And when American becomes a place where people are afraid to walk outside because their skin, their accent, their name, suddenly that makes them suspect. We've left the path of democracy and wanted to something darker. The question isn't why isn't ICE doing anything? The question is what kind of country are we becoming? What where is this normal? And if you're not asking that, you already have become too damn comfortable. And I want you guys to understand this. Once you give the government power as somebody who worked for the government, we never give it back. The Patriot Act that you just heard her yammering about, I'm sorry, uh the the whatever stupid ID crap that she was just telling about that I refused to get as somebody who worked for the government? Do you know when that law went into effect after 9-11? When we were supposed to when we were scared. And we made brass decisions because we were scared. And and we and b and and and and that was in a bill doing the work for you here. That's why you're getting a long show here. That was in a bill called the Patriot Act. A bill that now, in theory, the this version of Republicans believe in. But when I was growing up, when I was growing up, and Darrell McClain was listening to Rush Limbaugh, and Rush Limbaugh was telling me who was supposed to be a conservative. When Darrell McClain grew up, and Darrell McLean was listening to Neil Borts, and Neil Bortes was telling me who was supposed to be a libertarian, and Darrell McClain was listening to Bill O'Reilly. And Bill O'Reilly was a wink-winking I'm actually not a Republican, I'm an independent, but obviously I've always voted for Republicans. And, you know, we I kind of knew what was going on. Yeah, I'm actually an independent. Yeah, independent is always got it. And uh it's a two-party system. You can you can claim you're not a something, but if you don't do what I if you don't do what I struggled to do for years, and actually abstained from voting, ask my friend Josh Scott about it. Tell him if I'm lying. He changed my mind. He has a podcast. His podcast is called Overopinionated with Josh Scott. I'm gonna have him on so you can see that I do the radical thing of changing my mind. When I wrote my book, Faith in the Ballot, and tried to stop some of the partisan bickering. Do you know what the original intent of that book was? The book I was actually writing was why Christians shouldn't vote. When I originally started writing the book, I believed you should abstain from voting. That Christians shouldn't be involved, that it divides the body of Christ. We already have enough divisions. There's four thousand, like forty-five thousand versions of Protestant Christianity. If you include uh Catholic denominations, that's even that adds more, right? We already have enough divisions. For unity's sake, I wanted us to stop voting, stop being involved in the politics. Right? I I I've I had started to write the book and list the historical examples. History, who didn't vote, how how and then they wanted to be yada yada yada, set apart. I looked up the Quakers, I looked up the this, I looked up that, and when I was doing the research for my book, guess what happened? I changed my mind, and I changed it to we should vote, we should talk, and then after it's over, we should come back and still be brothers and sisters in Christ who have vigorous disagreements. That's it. How many people you think are gonna read that book? Don't know, it's irrelevant. I put it out so when I'm dead, it's there. Alright. It's very cheap. I made it very cheap on purpose. I I have it in paperback. So if you like paperback, you can do that. I have it in audio form, so if you want audio form, you can do that. I have it in hard copy, so if you want it in hard copy, you can do that. I purposely made it succinct and short. So it takes exactly when you put it on audio, you can do the learn the history in two hours. How many times have you heard me on this show promote my own book? I don't. There you go. I already did the work. Read it. So to get back to the topic here. Here are some relevant numbers. And I want us to understand this. We have to compare immigration enforcement outcomes under Barack Obama, now that he's gone, he's been gone for a while now, to the Trump administration. Now, remember this. Remember the theme that I've been talking about here. Conservatives hated Barack Hussein Obama. But under Barack Hussein Obama, the secret Muslim yada yada yada, wink wink, all that stuff, under Obama, over his eight years in office, the immigration and customs enforcement agency logged over three point one million deportations. Check me. Check the facts. In the fiscal year of 2012, the Obama administration recorded more than 407,000 removals in that one year alone. Under the first Trump administration, ICE did fewer removals in total than under Obama. For example, congressional data indicates that the Trump administration had not yet matched the roughly 40,000 AI removals seen during Obama's peak. More recently, under Trump's second term from 2025 onward, ICE removal surged again. The data shows over 270,000 removals in a 12-month period. So here's a summary based on the public data that I have available. The Obama administration achieved higher total removers over his full term and the higher annual peak than the first Trump term. The Trump administration enforcement numbers increased again later in his second term, but it did not in many cases because the cases exceeded the highest removal levels of the Obama era. So, that's the facts. I don't know. I'm not some partisan idiot, so I don't I had I'm not gonna be a stain for Obama, and I'm not gonna be a stain for Trump. Whatever. It's not it's not my it's not my thing. I I I have to I have to some somewhat do this different here because I'm trying to save my country.
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SPEAKER_13:Uh, just so I had to promote the uh my own stuff here. I've already done the work on this before this person said it. This is why I have a Substack that I started five months ago. So if you don't want to listen to me yabba yabbada yabba in long form, you can read it and you can paste, copy and paste it, and you can hit hint, you can check the facts. And I'm gonna tell you, I've literally done the work for you because I my shows, every last show that I produce, comes with transcripts. You don't even have to read it. You can sit down uh and copy and paste it, put it in your AI model and ask, is this true? Boom, mind blown. Anyway, I wrote an article about it, it's on Substack. See if I was right, see if I was wrong. There. See how easy that is?
SPEAKER_19:Now, just two weeks ago, the same judge accused Halligan of taking an indict-first and investigate second approach. The judge is giving the government until Wednesday to object to his order, giving Comey's lawyers access to jury records. Um and another judge has now stated that while he hears the the parts of the case. But Stacey, um, what do you make of, first of all, how do you even get to this point? When the judge is looking at what you presented to a grand jury, and it's basically asking the question do you even understand how any of this is supposed to work?
SPEAKER_02:So grand jury minutes don't even come out to anybody before a trial starts. So this early in the proceedings, there were so many errors in there by Lindsay Halligan to the grand jury in that room. This could easily be dismissed just on having a tainted grand jury indictment. He said things to those jurors, and this was released by this military judge who reviewed the grand jury minutes and is alerting the defense and wants to release to the defense these minutes in the challenge of these charges. He said crazy things like James Collins of the grand jury, and he can explain away more questions when jury when he gets to talk about he can talk about his innocence. Present evidence to the grand jury. There was no judge in them, there's no defense attorneys in them. You have a solemn secret job to present evidence in the proper way. She also made another comment to the grand jury, which blew my mind, which was what we're presenting to you now is only the beginning. There's gonna be more evidence at trial. This isn't just a rookie mistake, this is a constitutional mistake. The grand jury can only consider what they're given in that room.
SPEAKER_20:It's only only these people and also present some evidence from previous investigations that are not allowed in that. I mean, it could be a Fourth Amendment violence.
SPEAKER_13:So, yeah, I'm just gonna say this. I guess I'm using an argument from authority, or I'd like to say maybe because that's what you guys like, or arguments from experience is what I like. This is what happens when you don't put the best people in charge, you put the people you like in charge. Cronyism does not actually mean competence. I thought conservatives believe that if you pick yourself up by your bootst whatever the they what they say, pick yourself up by your bootstraps, right? Then everybody has the same opportunities the best person went out. Trump is showing us every day that that's what they say, but that's not what actually they do. Why do I know that that's not what they actually do? Because the people that have been saying it to the poor have no capacity in them to say it to their own president. Why? You apply, you obey the rules that we have yelled about for years. But when Trump is proving that it's a bunch of crap, mmm well no, no, no. He's with us. He's sending these cases to federal court without understanding that the federal judiciary is not made up of all Republicans. It's made up of a diverse body. So and they have lifetime appointments, which means what? They're gonna do what they wanna do because they're gonna be there longer than Trump. And and Democrats have to be smart enough, I suppose, I don't want to give them t advice. Well, and that's that's just do what you don't want to do, our is don't respond. Don't hyperventilate. Plot, plan, strategize, organize, shut up. You know, if you you you you that's not your you you have people they're the ones that get on TV, and they are the ones you pit. You, your great talker. You are the only one that talks. Period. Everybody else, this person talks. We're gonna let them s go behind closed doors, wink wink, and teach people how to talk like that. Oh, it's almost like practice makes perfect mind blowing. Anyway, and then when the Trump administration leaves, guess what? Trump has shown you the model, and the Supreme Court has what? Has justified the model. So you do the exact same thing Donald Trump did to put everything you want back into place. Why? Because what's good for the goose is good for the gander. There, I hope.
SPEAKER_20:Um who has no experience prosecuting?
SPEAKER_02:And you know what's so funny? Lindsay Halligan to me looks just like Hope Hicks, his former aide from the Trump administration with the big flowing long hair and the same kind of makeup and the same look. She looks like one of the apprentice girls. It's it's she's never prosecuted.
SPEAKER_19:No, makes them a bad lawyer in case.
SPEAKER_13:No, you idiot. It means that he picks people based off their looks. Because people have figured out, you know, I mean, based on the evidence, because Trump has been president before, and then there was a break, and then he became president again. If you are and humans are these little things, if you believe in evolutionary biology, humans are pattern-seeking animals. And guess what? It is in your very nature, because you're trying to survive, to recognize patterns and then emulate them. So even though I am frustrated that you all are a bunch of pathetic hypocrites, I forgive you because even if I believed in the Bible, the Bible says you are totally depraved above all things, no man can understand it. It says it about your heart. And most of you, out of the very nature of the type of people that you are, you listen to your heart. And I know your decisions, because you listen to your heart, is gonna be deceitfully wicked above all things. No man can understand it. And guess where I got that from? The Old Testament. Because I am one of those niggers who read books. There you go. There's a free nugget. So if you even if I was religious, religion says, You have I've been stained by the fall of Eve. So we call that in old theism the doctrine of total depravity. And you can check me on this. When America was first founded, check me, fact check me. Most of Americans believed that God was in control of everything. They were Calvinist. And over time, as America started to believe in liberty and freedom, etc. etc. etc., they became more Arminians. It was not a theological awakening that made people become Arminians. It was a people flocking to America, and as a way to not murder each other, they had to change their theology because so many different people were coming here, and they came here for what? History, history, history. They came here for religious freedom.
unknown:Oh wow.
SPEAKER_13:And because they came here for religious freedom, and they came, get this, in mass, mass, they left each other alone. And because they left each other alone and stopped trying to kill each other, America boomed. So if you want to go back to the foundation of how we actually make this country work, how about you go back to the damn foundation of how we made this country work and agree to disagree? And la wow. I did it for you. Now, verify it by looking and see what I said. I'll give you a good start here. Go look up Calvinism, how when it started, how they came to America, how it became popular. Go look up Wesleyanism, what it means, how it came to America, what was the foundation, go look up Arminianism on your own. How it came to America. Go look up dispensationalism. When it started, when it became popular, how it came to America. I can keep going, but I'm not, because like I told you earlier, which you don't know is there are 45,000 different versions of Protestant Christianity. Which means what? When somebody says I'm a Christian, they don't know that's not telling anybody anything. Alright, back to this again.
SPEAKER_08:I don't understand why that's relevant. Comment. It's relevant.
SPEAKER_13:Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. Because I don't know. Go look at the Secretary of Defense. I mean, you know, he's not an ugly man. He p he makes the part. Donald Trump, at least in the first term, and but I don't know what he's doing in the second term. I don't try to get close to it because everybody else is so close to it. I try to have a clear mind. But if you go look at the first term, it was very clear that Donald Trump constantly was watching the news. How? Because of the tweets. He was tweeting in real time while Josh Scorbor, while Joe Scarborough was saying something. He was when Mika was saying something. Don't believe me. That was it's we should be far removed from the first administration that I could say it in confidence. Go look it up. Go look it up how they knew Trump wasn't sleeping. Because he obsessively watches the news for the positive and the negative. That's how Trump is very aware of what people are saying about him because he obsessively watches the news. Trump is like me. What? Did did Durell say Donald Trump is like him? Yes. Yes. Trump has what we in the business call political brain rot. We are obsessed with politics, so it's what I watch mostly all the time for fun. I don't watch sports. I I don't any sports. I just never had an interest in a sport I wasn't doing or I didn't know anybody in. My sports is these crazy people on TV. Oh, when I go to the gym and work out, guess what's in my earpiece? Podcast. At a 1.75 speed, so I can get more of them out.
SPEAKER_10:Huh.
SPEAKER_13:And because I force myself to do this thing that I hope you guys would do. Listen to people I don't agree with. I'm not telling you to do anything I don't do. I'm telling you how I do it.
SPEAKER_02:Because it's kind of funny that he puts in a prosecutor who has never prosecuted a case in a day in her life. So yes, I'm alluding to her low. So what you were saying about what went on in the room.
SPEAKER_08:It's a judge's. I guess that's I mean, he's supposed to be a judge, but he's acting like a defense attorney for coming here. What if Halligan says what you just said, didn't he?
SPEAKER_11:When I was in the military, the the term was that's not a judge, that's an activist judge. Hmm. Oh, interesting. Interesting, interesting, interesting.
SPEAKER_13:She is the activist judge is activist judge bad a few years ago. Activist judge good now. Great.
SPEAKER_08:She's making statements, but she has a different point of view.
SPEAKER_02:My statement, Scott, there are the statements of the magistrate. The magistrate said this is what he read is alerting the defense and the prosecution that this problem is and that the defense is a remedy because the problem in this department could be so high because of what went on there.
SPEAKER_03:The whole infrastructure of the Republic is collapsing in real time. And it's an issue in public. The quality of one's character, character's destiny. Heraclitus and Emerson are right about that. And all the talk, all the distractions don't take us to the fundamental issues, which are the fact that civic virtue is being lost, high quality public life is being lost, lies are replacing even efforts to tell the truth. None of us have a monopoly on truth, but at least we can aspire to it.
SPEAKER_20:Cornell, I'm not sure James Comey thinks this is a distraction. Well, it's not a chance.
SPEAKER_13:He didn't say that uh oh, we needed to ignore James Comey. He said we need to make the conversation larger. She jumps right back to where she's comfortable, proving the point. Sometimes you shouldn't just respond for the sake of a response. You should listen and reflect. Think about it before you because before you you uh say anything. I want you to listen to this one thing that we used to say in the South. I'd rather be thought of as a fool than to open my mouth and remove all doubt. Remember that. You want me to say it again? I'd rather be thought of as a fool than to open my mouth and remove all doubt. Alright? Life lesson.
SPEAKER_19:I'm not discounting anything that you're talking about. It doesn't add all the time. It doesn't add a famous homie. It doesn't add to James Homie. There are also a bunch of other people.
SPEAKER_13:And then she agrees. We have to learn how to walk and show gum at the same time. Interesting. So if he says we have to do all these things, and you're hi- and then you're hyper focused on one thing, you agreed with him at the end. You said we have to learn how to walk and shoot gum at the same time, which means what? We have to do multiple things. So what so what did you disagree for? You just agreed. You you just wanted to reply for the sake of a reply. I caught you. Shut up sometimes.
SPEAKER_19:And the Post has an interesting story about one of those individuals in Miami who is pursuing these broad investigations into Trump officials. And his appointment, um, he has some some issues in his resume in terms in terms of not also not being potentially qualified for that job, but his appointment is causing real attorneys who've been there for a long time to flee. And he's there for the sole purpose of prosecuting people on Trump's enemies list.
SPEAKER_21:I have to say, every time they name somebody who's, you know, been indicted or being prosecuted, I think to myself, oh wow, that sounds like revenge. And then I see what they're being accused of, and I'm like, that sounds really bad, actually. And I kind of changed my mind about it. Although I have to say I'm with Dr. West on this. I feel like for most Americans, this is just so not top of mind. People are living paycheck to paycheck. They are really struggling with how they're gonna make NT and pay their rent.
SPEAKER_13:I agree with her at the end, but the voice she said at the beginning was stupid. Why? When somebody is accused of something, I have not changed my mind. Why? I'm waiting for the evidence to be presented. Alright, so that these are the people that people listen to. This is who gets on CNN. Stupid people.
SPEAKER_19:I'm with you, Dr. Watt. It's that's really it's not, and I think you're right. It is uh it's not top of line for most regular people, but it is top of mind for the president of the United States. AC Schneider, thank you very much for being here. Next, the guest is gonna the panel is gonna give us their nightcaps. The legal phrases edition, we'll tell you all about it next.
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SPEAKER_11:So here's the thing, guys.
SPEAKER_13:Um one of one of my long-term, uh, long um one of my long um one of my longest uh patrons. Actually, to be 100% um clear about this. This person was my first patron and has been giving me every single month faithfully. And I'm gonna say they're who it is, they can have their anime. But from the very beginning when I started this show, they've been giving me$100 a month. So the person who has been giving me$100 a month um, which I you know uh I out of respect for them because I have a Patreon and I don't need people asking them for money. I'm gonna say. Right? Gotta protect them. Told me that uh they were having some problems with uh the speed of the show. And I actually asked other people, uh I took it seriously, and that they did not see that there was a problem with the speed, that they thought it was five. I asked, um, to be honest, I asked about five people. But what I decided to do even though the other people disagreed with uh the person that has given a lot of money, they we all, the people who disagreed, said that our ears had been fine-tuned because we listened to our podcast 1.75. So what you are hearing now is because this person has been with me since the beginning. I have slowed the podcast down on purpose using AI. Because everybody else already listens to it fast and they know how to do it. So uh this part is somewhat crap. You you can cut it off now. Uh, but because they're they're light, uh, I put it in there. Because I don't want to hear it. This part I'm gonna speed up. Thank you for tuning in. And see you on the next episode.
SPEAKER_19:Add enough of your kids saying six seven enough to make the phrase illegal? Yes. Yes.
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SPEAKER_19:We are back. Have you had enough of your kids saying six seven enough to make the phrase illegal? Yes. And they passed an admission of making six seven illegal in order to quote keep parents safe. What phrase a word would you make illegal to tell you about this?
SPEAKER_21:I am so sick of the word weaponized. You cannot weaponize a word or thought. Literally, the entire purpose of the United States of America is that words cannot become weapons. You choose words. We find it out. That's the whole point of free speech. I'm so sick of this word.
SPEAKER_20:Can't make people agreed. Um I don't like all of these abbreviations that kids put in text, but I constantly find myself having to look up what the hell are trying to say. I mean it just makes sense. T M. Okay.
SPEAKER_08:Seven, the sigma, the what? I'm just telling you. I'm so sick of being answered if I would like the editive customer service kiosk. What does human being standing there? These little machines are asking us to tip things all the time that we previously didn't have to tip in our culture. I'm happy to tip a waiter sort of rush. I don't need it. Where does the tip go?
SPEAKER_19:If I'm tipping a machine, then a person standing there who gets the tip? What what computer programming just to have a wage that adds the tip on it? I just want that as some people have suggested. Who gives the wages? No customer service wages. I mean, yeah, you're right.
SPEAKER_13:Like, you know, you can air slightly check out of the kiosk and they're like, I couldn't I couldn't help myself. I I I couldn't help myself. I disagree with everything that he said in that only because people don't people don't freaking tip the person. I I have gone out drinking at somebody who regularly has a great time, and I've had a conversation with them, so I'm not gonna mention them by name. The person the bartender is attentive, does everything right, makes sure they get all attention. These then this person is about 300 pounds and they can really put them back. They'll have hundreds of dollars worth of drinks. They Because the bar is so relaxed, the people even allow them to go out to their car and which they do, and they can have other drinks. And then they'll come right in at their the bartender attended to them, and there's only one of them. Well, guess what that person does after having a great night? All ways writes zero dollars. So that was stupid. It doesn't matter if it's a machine, it's a machine because you didn't tip the damn workers, period. The rich and the rest of us. A poverty manifesto. It's a big club, and you ain't in it.
SPEAKER_19:No, no, sir. No, no, no, Mr. Robot. All right, thank you very much. Thank you for watching News Night, and don't miss my discussion, a powerful one featuring influential women exploring the themes at the CNN New Film. Prime Minister. Prime Minister, the conversation is now streaming exclusively on the CNN app. Laura Codes Live starts right now.
SPEAKER_16:Hey, Robin House here. Nope. You're trying to switch.
SPEAKER_17:This week on the assignment with me on Cornish. It's common to hear people, especially women, talking about having imposter syndrome. But I did not expect to hear that from a woman who was once a head of state. You worry about being exposed, you worry about failure. This is the right honorable dame Jacinda Arder, former Prime Minister of New Zealand. The last few years she's been teaching a new generation about leadership at Harvard and at Oxford University's Blavotnik School of Government, where I met her for this conversation. In an era of strongman politics, what would a different kind of power even look like? Listen to the assignment with me, Audie Cornish, streaming now on your favorite podcast app.
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