White House Spin Machine

They’re reportedly talking about the Epstein files in the White House Situation Room, and the goal isn’t justice, it’s damage control. We walk through the latest reporting, the alleged internal panic, and the kind of PR brainstorming that only makes sense when protecting political power becomes the top priority. Along the way, we ask the uncomfortable question that keeps getting skipped: what does “full transparency” mean when the people in charge get to choose what the public can search, read, and connect?

We also zoom out to the bigger media environment that makes cover-ups easier. If outrage cycles can be redirected into culture war fights, then accountability gets delayed, diluted, or buried under a new distraction. We talk about why selective releases and redactions shape public memory, how friendly platforms get treated like emergency exits for politicians, and why credibility collapses when messaging replaces answers. Keywords woven throughout include Epstein files, White House crisis communications, political scandal, media spin, government transparency, and public accountability.

Then we break down JD Vance’s appearance on The View, using it as a real-time example of modern political spin on inflation, war, spending, and immigration. We compare what’s claimed on TV with what’s reported elsewhere, and we end with the moral stakes behind detention conditions and refugee admissions. If you care about truth over tribalism, listen through, then subscribe, share the episode, and leave a review so more people can find it. What part of this story do you want investigated next?

Transcript

Opening Thought On Protecting Kids

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So we want to make it a better place for the children. So that they know it's a better word for them.

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All right, y'all, welcome to the show. And all I have to say is prepare yourself. Prepare yourself because this show is completely, completely out of control. So in just a second, uh we have horrifying, horrifying new releases on the Epstein Files. Big New York Times piece that came out the other day that broke down just how much the White House was panicking. Trump has a nipple torture kink, which got out there, which the team was meeting in the situation room to figure out how to cover that up. You can't make this stuff up. You can't make it up. So we'll talk about that. We also have Trump is so mentally ill that Iran turned to master psychologists to figure out how to deal with it.

A No-Filter Rundown Of Chaos

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This stuff is like out of a movie. We'll also get to Furious Marjorie Taylor Green gets her revenge on Trump and is just torching him all over the place. We have Alex Jones going nuclear on Ben Shapiro and uh screaming about him, calling him a rat, calling him a son of a bitch. So that's an amazing clip. And then also later on, you'll see the reaction of an AI CEO to learning that his AI is leading to bombing little girl schools in Iran. And it is just a disgusting reaction that should remind you how depraved these people are. So if you guys know the deal, man, everybody do me a big favor, subscribe to the channel and click that bell icon. You can support the show on Patreon. You can sign up for Crystal Kyland Friends on Substack. You, of course, can go sub to Corin's World and come hang out with us over there every Monday night. And uh yeah, there are my shameless plugs for you. And thank you all, of course, if you do support the show, we couldn't do it without you. As you know, this is real independent media. I've never talked to an advertiser, never done an ad read, never will. But that means you guys support the show from the ground up. So thank you again for hooking us up with even a buck or two bucks a month in Meets the World. Okay, let's go ahead and jump right in, y'all. So um, you have got to hear what the White House was doing when the Epstein files was peaking, okay, when the scandal was peaking, when everybody was talking about it, uh, because they were lost. They were panicking, they were losing it, they didn't know what to do. They were literally meeting in the situation room, y'all, which is supposed to be for like war, and they're meeting in the situation room to try to figure out how to fucking dodge and obfuscate and get people look away from their disgusting pedophile bosses' kinks. Okay, I'm not kidding about any of this. So Daily Beast here says Vance's twisted plot for Glaine Maxwell interview exposed. The vice president floated an extraordinary PR gamut as the White House went into full-blown meltdown over

Situation Room Panic Over Epstein

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the release of the Epstein files. Okay, they say JD Vance pushed to have Tucker Carlson interview jailed sex trafficker Ghlaine Maxwell as part of White House efforts to defuse Donald Trump's self-engineered Jeffrey Epstein crisis. The president pledged full transparency on the late pedophile's crimes on the 2024 campaign trail. He broke that promise after retaking the White House, with what critics say was a concerted effort to deflect scrutiny of his own relationship with Epstein by blocking and later obfuscating the release of Justice Department findings on the case. The backlash ran so deep that Trump's top officials convened a secret meeting last July to frantically compare notes on containing the scandal as it threatened to split the MAGA base, according to an explosive report by the New York Times published Wednesday. Trump himself, the newspaper adds, did not attend the summit, which was held in the situation room beneath the White House ten days after the DOJ and FBI released a memo reasserting Epstein had kept no client list of uber wealthy accomplices, and that his 2019 death in police custody had been a suicide. Influential right-wing voices have long questioned those claims. Quote, this is a huge problem, Vance opened by telling the room, the newspaper reported. He was apparently so panicked that other aides left under the impression he fully embraced some of the wilder theories about Epstein's crimes that have long swirled in the darker corners of the internet. Susie Wiles, Trump's chief of staff, famously admitted in a subsequent Vanity Fair interview that she believes Vance is a full-blown, quote, conspiracy theorist. Yeah, here's the thing. That would mean on this particular issue, J.D. Vance is correct. Uh it is a conspiracy theory. It is a child sex trafficking ring. It is billionaire elites who are partaking in these disgusting crimes. But his brilliant idea was let's have Tucker Carlson interview Glaine Maxwell, and then Ghlaine Maxwell will clear Trump's name, and then everything will be good. Yeah, because why wouldn't the country take the word of a literal pedophile child sex trafficker? That's exactly what Ghlaine is. So no matter what she says, everybody's gonna know, oh, obviously she's trying to clear Trump's name in order to get a pardon. Duh. But Vance was dumb enough to think, well, if Tucker does a sit-down interview and makes her seem like sympathetic and she clears Trump's name, then we'll be good. By the way, at no point in these panicked, frantic meetings in the Situation Room did any of the people talk about whether or not the allegations were true and whether or not they were morally comfortable with defending their pedophile war criminal president, their boss. That's how gross these people are. They're such disgusting ladder climbers and carreras that they simply didn't care if the pedophile allegations against Trump were true. Okay, they say the vice president proposed remedy was to send Carlson into prison to question Maxwell, who was serving a 20-year sentence for her part and Epstein's abuse of underage girls, in the hope she might clear Trump of any impropriety on camera at the New York Times found. Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche, Trump's former defense attorney, eventually wound up doing that interview rather than Carlson. Vance further suggested making his own appearance on the Joe Rogan podcast to discuss the scandal. Only a portion of that interview would be committed to the Epstein case he proposed, with the rest focusing on trumpeting the president's legislative agenda. Let me pause to point out this is now the bet you made, Joe Rogan. You proud of yourself? You happy? You're literally part of the plot to cover up the Epstein crimes. Congratulations. You're now part of the Epstein class. You're in the elite ring of billionaires who are committing atrocious crimes. They look to you to be a propagandist to run cover for them. To the point where JD Bance is like, I'll just go on Joe Rogan. I'll just shoot the shit with him. And we'll like casually talk about how, bro, we're doing like tax cuts and stuff, and that's cool. So, hey, did I mention my boss is not a pedophile? Did I mention that? Bro, he's totally not a pedophile. You know what I'm saying, bro? And Rogan's like, huh. Bro, are you trying to help me? This is this is what they use it for. What a sad, sad fall from grace. Joel Rogan is one of the biggest frauds in this country. Coming up as like, I'm the everyman. I'm like, you know, I'm just a curious guy who like has conversations and stuff. And I like conversations and stuff. Like, for example, spreading billionaire propaganda is sort of my thing. And covering up for a pedophile six trafficking ring is sort of my thing, also, bro. So think about this. JD Vance felt comfortable enough floating that idea. He floated the idea of Joe Rogan helping to whitewash the crimes. Okay. Deputy Chief of Staff James Blair was quick to pour cold water on Vance's ideas for getting ahead of the crisis. Quote, with all due respect, the communication strategy of this group got us here, he told Vance. I don't know that it's going to get us out. And if you're going to go in front of the press, you've got a lot of work to do. He then asked Vance a series of mock questions to illustrate just how challenging any appearance might prove. Vance nevertheless lobbied hard for dumping the full cache of files and even back to congressional inquiry, according to the New York Times. He argued that Congress was going to force the release of the files eventually, the newspaper writes. If the administration got out of this and released everything voluntarily, including whatever material existed about the president, it would at least get credit for transparency. So let's be serious here. JD Vance painted himself into a corner by being, you know, big on releasing the Epstein files and big on like, when he thought it was just like a Democrat thing, he was all about, like, oh yeah, let's talk about this 24-7. Let's act like it's the biggest deal in the world. The second it became clear that his boss was in there, then it became like, all right, well, maybe we can weather the storm by releasing all the stuff. And then in his mind, he's thinking, even if it takes down Trump, I'm still left standing because I can just come out and say, I wanted to release all the files, right? Like he's doing self-preservation. He's doing ass covering. That's what he's trying to do here. And like maybe he thinks Trump could just say all the stuff in there is fake news that's bad about him. But I think more so in his mind, whether or not Trump can get away with it, he comes out looking better because he could just turn around and say, Oh, I wanted to release everything. And that's what we did, we released everything. But he knows as soon as they decide we're gonna like hide a bunch of shit, we're gonna bury the stuff about Trump, we're gonna like all of a sudden do a total 180, and now we don't want to release the FC files. I think he knew, well, that torches whatever chances I have in 2028. That's why he's been out there saying, I don't know if I'm gonna run in 2028.

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And this, my friends, is the problem with American politics. Welcome to the Drama Clade Show. I am your host, Roe Clay, independent media that will reinforce tribalism. We have one planet, nobody is leaving. So let us reason together. Everything you just heard from Kal Kalinsky of the uh Kalkalinski show, I'm sorry. Kal Kalinski from the uh Security. Oh no, trying from the Kalkalinski show. That's the problem with American politics. Um make the quote of the day uh pretty simple. Tell the truth and shame the devil. Let's get to our episode. So I think we all know there is a problem here. When I was writing the book thinking about it, I actually even said on a previous episode that initially I was writing the book to say Christians should not have a vote. And I really believed that at the time because I saw it as inherently divisive. I saw people who were good friends looking for reasons to hate each other. And when I mean looking for reasons to hate each other, I'm saying it exactly how it sounds. People who had over 90% of things in common were looking to fight each other. And then so like a good investigator, because I spent all my many years as a master at arms, I thought, if there is a cloud, there may be some funding behind it. And who benefits from this the most is the question that I started to wrestle. So in talking to Josh Scott, overopinionated about the global pedophile ring, I told him one time when we were talking about Pizza Gate and things of that nature. I said, well, let me just tell you something that I know very, very clearly. If there was a global pedophile ring of Democrats, the Republicans would have already exploded it. I say because there are times when the Republican Party, if you go look it up, have been over the Federal Bureau of Investigation. And when I mean the Republican Party has been over the Federal Bureau of Investigation, I mean the person over the FBI identified as a republican. So if that is the case, that would mean that the most powerful law enforcement agency in the United States of America run by Republicans are rejecting Democratic pedophiles. So that said, if there is a global pedophile ring, it is not being exposed because both Democrats and Republicans and Libertarians etc. are doing it. It has nothing to do with the political party, it has everything to do with the fact that there must be very powerful people who are doing it, and the most powerful people in this country, I dare say every country, or A R E, the people who have at least one billion dollars. Your local millionaire may find out about it. Your local hundred millionaire may find out about it. Now let's go to conspiracy territory here. When your local 500 millionaire person, you know, local wait, wait, it's local to just have 500 million dollars, right? When your local 500 million dollar person finds about it. What the billionaire class will do what the Epstein class will do is they'll accuse the person who's trying to expose exactly what they are doing. And they will it'll normally be and that now I'm putting on my psychology hat here. American Military University psychology degree, blah blah blah blah blah, behavioral science certifications, yada yada yada, Christian counseling blah blah boom boom boom. I don't bless all those credentials because I find that stuff to be corny and unsettling when people have to lead with a doctor or whatever other title they want to be called. If you want to be called that, I will do so, I don't respect, and I shall be praying for you. Because that to me sounds as if it is an argument from authority. And I really fundamentally believe that arguments from authority are the weakest form of argumentation. So now when I said I'm getting into theorizing here, this is actually what I believe was the case with one Michael Jackson. There was a period of time where Michael Jackson all of a sudden started to give away all this money to charity. You can go look it up. He broke records. He broke so many records that he was named again as a book of real records for the most money ever given to so many different charities. And guess what the charities were? They all involved children. They all his all his music changed. It wasn't just about partying anymore, it wasn't about uh Benogene, it wasn't just uh all his songs became about uh police brutality, his songs became about healing the world, his songs became about protecting the children. You know, Will You Be There? All his music became about protecting children. And about four years later, guess who he's accused of doing. Yeah. No, you go and watch the trial in its entirety. Which it was available and it's still available to watch a child. The trial in its entirety. You listen to what the people said. The prosecution said. The witnesses. And then he it wasn't a job. Done by the media. By the lame dream media. Who are in the what? The American media are a bunch of millionaires who are doing the bidding of millionaires. And the poor man. And we know, I believe, that something was. He found out that they were systematically doing things. Like what's in the Epstein files?

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Because how can you get away with this? How can you get away with this? When you when he made a point of saying, like, we're the no new wars people, we're the pro-peace ticket, and we're for releasing the Epstein files, and you broke every single one of those things, like, what do you expect, bro? What do you expect? Okay. The alternative was to let the story drag on for months as information drift out. Uh, each new revelation renewing a cycle of suspicion and fury, it adds. Trump, in the end, chose the latter option, only releasing the files in heavily redacted tranches after a bipartisan campaign of pressure from the House and Senate forced him to do so. And it's the definition of a limited hangout, by the way. So they give you a little bit, they're actually still hiding the worst parts of it, right? And they probably only released about half of them. And we've gotten a lot out of it, but there's a lot more and a lot worse stuff in there. And so it didn't matter what they did. Once the public locked in on the Epstein files, Trump was fucked. And he's fucked because he was Epstein's best friend for over a decade and he's a pedophile. There's all this evidence of him being like the worst of the worst. Like the files more so exonerated Clinton than fucking Trump. And so it didn't matter what you did. Release it all, don't release it all. Like at the end of the day, people are gonna blame you and they're gonna be correct to blame you because you guys are the pedophile protector party. That's what you are. Let me give you more. Situation room scramble over sick Trump fetish claim revealed. Senior officials weighed whether to publish a retracted accusation about the president's sexual conduct. Senior Trump officials sat in a secure bunker at the White House and debated the discredited accusation, discredited accusation, that the president is fixated on women's nipples. The discussion unfolded during a crisis meeting in the situation room late August over the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, the New York Times reported in explosive expose Wednesday. Donald Trump's team was weighing whether a planned searchable Justice Department database would dredge up humiliating claims about him and his past relationship with the late pedophile. So understand something. They're just admitting to covering shit up now. So I don't know if you guys recall this, but in the first, the first grouping of stuff that came out about the Epstein files, there was one picture that showed that Epstein had basically a drawer in his home that was dedicated to Trump stuff. It had a bunch of pictures of Trump in there. There was like some Melania stuff in there. He had a whole drawer of like Trump-related pictures and documents. And they had posted this on, you know, the Justice Department website or the FBI website or whatever it was. And then people saw it, and then Trump flipped out and demanded they take it down, and they took it down, right? And you're what you're learning here is it's worse than that. They were going to create a searchable database. But when they did the searchable database, what they found is one of the first claims that kept coming up about Trump, whenever you searched anything with Trump, was his nipple torture fetish. So they saw that, they were like, nuke it, we don't even want a database. Get rid of the database. We're not doing a database. Fuck a database. So again, in the midst of it's like fucking three stooges trying to release information but hide the stuff that they think looks bad, and it just keeps fucking backfiring. They keep shooting themselves in the dick. It's incredible. Donald Trump's team was weighing whether a planned searchable justice parking database would dredge up humiliating claims about him and his past relationship with the late pedophile. One of those claims had reportedly surfaced while stress testing a prototype for the database. Official searches of the early version of the site found that among the first Trump-related hits was an allegation from Epstein accuser Sarah Ransom, drawn from a settled civil case. In email to a reporter, Ransom alleged that a girl Epstein had trafficked, known as Jen, told her she slept with Trump and described him as fixated on nipples and physically rough with hers. The nipples, Ransom added, looked incredibly painful as they were red and swollen when she glimpsed them in a shared bathroom. Vice President J.D. Vance argued for releasing the material anyway, telling the group Trump would be all right with doing so. Quote, I think we should put it out, he said. It would cause people to say we're going further than we need to. So JD Vance is going, just release the shit. Like we want full transparency, just release the shit. And he's pretending like, oh yeah, Trump

The Searchable Database That Died

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could weather the storm on this, he'll just call it fake news and we'll be good. But again, low-key secretly, I think what JD Vance wants to do is fucking sync Trump. And then he knows he becomes president in a situation where Trump goes down. And remember, JD Vance is Peter Thiel's boy. He's many of the oligarchs have put everything on JD Vance. So if you're wondering why, there's been countless examples of Trump trying to rat fuck JD Vance. Like he made him the fraud czar, and he said, Oh, if he does his job right, he can balance the budget, balance the budget with all the fraud he finds, which is fucking insane. We have like $40 trillion in fraud, and Trump is pardoning the whole bunch of fraud sturst, by the way. He doesn't give a fuck about fraud. But like he's giving him specifically something to tank him in the same way that, like, you know, Kamala was the border czar under Biden or whatever the fuck it was. Like, this is the president rat fucking their vice president because they don't want anybody to threaten their power. And so you look at that and you go, damn, Trump's rat fucking him. But what you didn't know is behind the scenes, this is JD rat fucking Trump also. This is him going, oh yeah, let's release it. Trump will be fine with releasing a thing about his nipple torture fetish. I don't think so, son. I don't think so. Okay. Susie Wiles, Trump's chief of staff, shot back that the president would not be fine with it, ending the debate. One official called it surreal to have been discussing the president's alleged sexual preferences in perhaps the most heavily fortified location in the country. An official had already flagged that the claim was effectively public. Quote, this is out there, the person reportedly said. They're going to make a huge scene of it, even though it's not true and everybody knows it. Well, let me pause to point out they weren't going to make a big scene of it. Unfortunately, um, my I found that the Democratic Party is immensely weak in talking about uh claims of Trump and Epstein files. Uh the media as well is pretty fucking weak with talking about these things. If you guys watch this show, you know I'll go there, I'll tell you everything that's in there, but most of the time they avoid it. And so this is J.D. Vance assuming there's a competent opposition, which there's not. If there was a competent opposition, they would bring this up. Fucking nipple torturing underage girls seems like kind of a big deal. If there was any allegation against any Democrat of anything like that, Republicans would never shut the fuck up about it. Ransom's account carried heavy caveats. She had separately claimed to possess sex tapes of powerful men, then walked that back, citing fears for her family. Nothing about that is weird to me. That seems perfectly reasonable. That's what happened with Katie Johnson. Uh much of the room treated the Nipple allegation as long discredited, the Times found, while some aides were hearing it for the first time. The accusation was never charged or independently verified. Trump's director of communications, Stephen Chung, previously called Ransom's claims baseless accusations that have been fully retracted because they are simply false and have no merit. That's not true. The Deadly Beast has contacted the White House for further comment on this story. Uh, yeah, let me guess. They're gonna go ahead and not respond to it, is my guess. Okay. Uh so Derspiegel, English, says a young woman from Germany vanished without a trace 11 years ago. Now her name makes several appearances in the Epstein files. Her family wants to finally learn what happened to her. My guess as to what happened to her involves sulfuric acid and involves uh Jeffrey Epstein's pedophile island. That's my guess. Remember that? I love how we learned that Jeffrey Epstein had a trapdoor underneath his mansion on his island that led to the water. And the day he was, we learned he was being investigated, he bought like a giant vat of sulfuric acid more than any person would ever need. And uh, you know, I'm sure there's nothing weird there. I'm sure that there's no uh sketchy things happening there. I'm sure that's all on the up and up. Uh, but yeah, how many innocent little girls or women ended up murdered because of Jeffrey Epstein? Uh and what's with like, you know, there was there was stuff in those files that is just can make you lose sleep, bro. Learning about the fucking kinks and the weird shit, the blood rituals and like uh literally biting girls. This is that's and there's a famous uh billionaire who is on that list where he allegedly would like get off on biting these girls. Like, this there's some dark, dark ass shit that's in there. And so, how many women are missing? I don't know. How many girls are missing? I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if that number is very, very high. Okay, so here, as part of that New York Times piece, um, they did a video where they talk about this. Let's watch.

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If you were watching the Trump administration in 2025, you would have gotten the impression that the Epstein files were a relatively minor issue. President Trump suggested that nobody cared. He said that the Epstein story was boring.

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That this was a hoax.

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These files were made up by Comey, they were made up by Obama.

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But what we learned while we were reporting our book, regime change, was just how much the Trump administration, up to the highest levels of the government, were paralyzed over how to deal with a growing crisis. Their biggest obstacle was Donald Trump.

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Trump wanted it buried, he didn't want to release the files. His staff knew that this was an issue that they couldn't really talk about.

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People in his orbit found him snapping at them if they even raised the issue of Jeffrey Epstein.

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So over the summer of 2025, you had some of Trump's most senior advisors at the top level of the government gathered in the situation room, which is typically used for national security or responding to national disasters. To figure out a way to spin their way out of this. Not with the president, but among themselves. It was an issue that came back to bite them. Because many of the same senior people who were in the situation room were very strong advocates for releasing the Epstein files way back even before the 2024 campaign, and potentially a client list, a list of powerful men who were, you know, the rumors had it involved in sex trafficking with Epstein. We have seen no evidence that there's a client list.

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But the idea of a client list had been popularized by, among others, Trump's future vice president. Seriously, we need to release the Epstein

Missing Names And Darker Implications

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list. That is an important thing. His future FBI director. Put on your big boy pants and let us know who the pedophiles are.

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And his future deputy FBI director. The Epstein client list, I believe, is gonna rock the political. There's a reason they're hiding. After he was elected, his own attorney general appeared to confirm that the client list existed.

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It's sitting on my desk right now to review. Um that's been a directive by President Trump.

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They go through the files and the message changes very substantially. Very quickly, it became clear that Trump himself was mentioned numerous times.

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At first, let me see if I remember this correctly. When they released about 1% of the files, what was the number, guys? Was it I think his name was mentioned 38,000 times or like 13,000 times? Uh, that was when they released the first 1% of the files. Turns out, when they released, now I think we're at 50% of the files they released, they're still hiding a bunch, but his name is mentioned a million times. A million times. His name is mentioned more than any other individual in the Epstein files. Stop and think about that. The speculation, there's a lot of people out there who follow this stuff closely, smarter than me, who say he is one of Jeffrey Epstein's co-conspirators. In other words, he was running the child sex

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trafficking ring with Jeffrey Epstein. This is what the speculation is. Because how the fuck can your name be in there that many times? Unless you are a key player in the whole thing, in the whole scheme.

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Does not mean that anything said there was verified about Trump or anyone else, but it did mean that releasing the files was a non-starter for the president and his team.

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In the coming months, there were internal conversations about, well, what do we do?

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In early July, the Delus Department and the FBI released a joint memo with no names attached to it, just letterhead, saying, in fact, there was an appliant list and that there were no other people who should be prosecuted in connection with Jeffrey Epstein's crime.

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I need you to stop and think about that. They're putting cases on James Comey. They're putting cases on Latisha James. They went after Don Lemon for doing his job. Okay? They're going after Gavin Newsom, as we learned the other day. They're investigating Gavin Newsom. He's politically persecuting people who disagree with him and who stand up to him and who tell the truth. But there's not one person in the Epstein files who's been taken down for the crime of child sex trafficking or actual pedophilia. Nah, son, nah. We see what this is. This is a criminal organization. That's what this is. This is not, this is not a White House. This is not a government. This is not a cabinet. This is this is a regime. This is a cartel. This is a criminal organization. That's what we're looking at here.

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And all of a sudden, many of his voters who thought that they were electing a president and people around him to get to the bottom of the Epstein story were suddenly feeling that they were actually part of a cover-up.

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How many of you are satisfied with the results of the Epstein investigation?

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During this whole period, Trump was just getting more and more fed up.

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He was very used to telling his base what to think and having them believe him.

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He accused his supporters of being weaklings. He said he didn't want their support anymore. He used expletives to say this was all fake. And again, said this was all the fault of Democrats. Any attempts that Trump made to downplay the scandal only reinforced suspicions among his base that they were hiding something. So at those meetings last summer, when President Trump's most senior aides gathered away from him, the vice president thought that they should put everything out there, that Congress was going to force the issue anyway. Others, like the chief of staff, said absolutely no way the president will be okay with that. There was a conversation about whether Top Blanche, who was the deputy attorney general at the time, whether he should go on Joe Rogan. The vice president said that he should be the one to go on Rogan.

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What they didn't talk about was prosecuting edition. By the way, this should be the end of Joe Rogan's career. In a world that made sense, it should be the end of Joe Rogan's career that the war criminal, pedophile, rapist regime thought, oh, let's run to him to help us cover up the child sex trafficking ring that our boss is implicated in, right? Just the fact they even fucking considered that should absolutely be the end of Joe Rogan's career. They know he's a pawn in their game.

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The discussion in the situation room was not about how to give these women a hearing or a chance to tell their stories. These meetings were about how to handle the political fallout in front of the White House.

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These people are deeply immoral. These are unethical, immoral, self-obsessed, careerist assholes. None of them give a fuck about justice. Like I said, it didn't even come up in the room like, hey, are these things true about Trump? Like, and what does that mean that I'm working for him? None of them care. None of them.

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What ended up happening is their hand was forced by Congress. They ultimately passed nearly unanimously the Epstein Files Transparency Act. Trump was forced to sign it. And what was clear from our reporting is even after that, even after the passage of this bill and the release of so many of these files, the issue didn't go away at all. Maggie and I obtained a document written by President Trump's top polls, attorney Fabrizio, which described focus groups that were conducted in March of this year.

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It was the sixth most important issue raised by voters in this focus group.

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I mean, these are really pogent political issues that ranked below the Epstein files.

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More than a year after they first started to try to deal with the Epstein crisis, he just simply could not make it go away by telling his supporters they should believe him instead of something else.

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Here's the thing. He's in there a million times. There's so many horrid things about him. The more he objects, it's a thou dost protest too much moment. And everybody sees it. Everybody gets it. Everybody goes, Oh, well, hold on. Why? Why are you so intent on moving past this? Okay, so here we have the pod save guys, and they get into a little bit more detail on the nipple torture cake.

SPEAKER_19 38:15

A girl in Epstein's sex trafficking ring named Jen, who said she had sex with Trump. Ransom also claimed that Jen had told her that Trump had a predilection for nipples and that he had aggressively flicked and sucked hers. Ransom wrote that she had seen evidence when she shared a bathroom with Jen, quote, they looked incredibly painful because they were red and swollen, and I remember wincing when I looked at them, she wrote. Gross. Gross. The P-Tape is out, nipple gate is in. So the context here, this is according to Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan, who are the best reporters of the New York Times. They have a new book out called Regime Change inside the imperial presidency of Donald Trump. This email is apparently one of the primary reasons that the Department of Justice never created a searchable database of the Epstein file. So the Trump administration built an internal version of the database. They tested it, and the nipple thing was like the first document that kept coming up. So they just spiked the whole idea. They were solely worried about like Trump's exposure, not transparency, not about putting the story to bed. So did you expect to be talking about nipples this morning? I did not.

SPEAKER_20 39:09

Well, it's not all Trump, so you never know. I did like in this in the piece, they have a line. One official would later describe it as a surreal experience to be discussing nipples in the White House situation room. That's the other great thing about this, is like all of the meetings about Epstein were taking place in the situation room, which I find um quite interesting. I found that remarkable too. Actually, managing like an international crisis, but the crisis is your boss's comeback. I mean, yeah, technically it is an international crisis with Jeffrey Epstein, so that does make sense. Just on the name.

SPEAKER_19 39:34

Remember Tormy Daniels told us that Trump wanted her to spank him with a copy of a Forbes magazine with his face on the cover?

SPEAKER_02 39:40

Oh no, I had forgotten about that. Trump wanted to be spanked with a Forbes magazine with his face on the cover. There's let me tell you something. Psychologists are gonna have a motherfucking field day with this man, bro. A field day. And speaking of psychologists, I got more on that in a little bit because I got an amazing update about how the Iranians have to deal with Trump, okay? But bro, when you learn this, it's like, how is he not out of power yet? How is he not impeached? How is he not hit with the 25th Amendment? How is he not in handcuffs? How is he not behind bars? Like, this is fucking mental, what we're looking at here. This state of affairs cannot hold.

SPEAKER_04 40:18

And now people So to answer that question, why is he not in jail? Why is he yada yada yada? Because there was a game that was played. The most oldest game in the United States of America. The bait and switch. They took your pedophile story and they raised it with trans. Trans. Trans. Trans. And they literally won an election based on trans panic. Trans in sports. Trans in high school. Trans, trans, trans, trans, trans. Oh, trans taking over the whole world. Gay people who don't like trans. Trans. Trans. CIA had. Oh, we just old just regular gay people. Not the scary gays. Those trans. And everybody fell for it. Well, not everybody, you know. But according to well, look, I try to be nice because it's when you use words like everybody, somebody will say, well, no, no, everybody is eight billion people. We know what I mean by everybody. Everybody fell for it so much that the word trans was on everybody's lips. The presidential debate happened happens. People are talking about that Kamala Harris wants people, transgender people, to get this and that in prison. Anybody who was um let me let me um not be mean here. Anybody who worked in the prison system knows there was no special law that was going to change anything as far as transgender people. When you go to prison, especially a federal prison, which was for the question, a federal prison, you get health care. A lot of people didn't know that. People in prison are entitled to health care. Because if you don't give them health care, you you will be deemed by the Supreme Court, which I'm pretty sure they probably did this, it'll is considered some a sort of cruel and unusual punishment. So if a transgender person went to prison and was already on whatever, hormone blockers and whatnot, yes, the taxpayers pay for their medical coverage like they pay for every person coverage like the rapist. Yeah, yeah. Like the serial uh killer. In prison, it doesn't matter what you've

Culture War Distraction And Accountability

SPEAKER_04 42:56

done, it is a program that is funded by the taxpayer. Where do you think prisons prisoners get food from? The moon. So but people were easily distracted by weapons of mass distraction. And who owns weapons of mass distraction? Billionaires. And what do we call those weapons of mass distraction? The news. It could have been one person on the news to say there are less than two thousand trans athletes in the entire country. Why is this a story? It could be somebody who says there are less than 1,000 trans athletes in college, etc. etc. Why is this a story? It could be somebody who says in college there's about 300 or so, and they're not even at the top of the sport and etc. But that's not what the job was. The job was. To protect the billionaire class at all costs. To protect the Epic class at all cause. So look over there. And you make it a culture of war. And the trans community got thrown under the bus in order to protect the pedophile community. And that is a fact.

SPEAKER_02 44:31

Do yourself a favor. If this country, if everybody in this country knew about the Katie Johnson allegation, we would be living in a fundamentally different country right now because we would not tolerate Donald Trump continuing to remain in power. It wouldn't happen. The Katie Johnson allegation is fucking stomach churning. And I covered the whole thing. She gave some testimony and blurred her face out, used an alias, but she gave some testimony about what she personally went through with Trump and Epstein. And as a 13-year-old, she was graped. Okay? And she gets into horrid specifics about, you know, somebody at you know, Trump demanding a blowjob from some other underage girl, and she uses her teeth, and then he fucking hits her, and he's got he also has like racist fantasies as as part of his fucking kink, and he would when there'd be these X teen orgies, he'd sit in the corner and jack off, and then have some underage girl come and try to finish them off. I mean, this is like horrible, horrible stuff that we're talking about here. Just disgusting, disgusting stuff that we're talking about here. And it's all out there. It's all out there. The Katie Johnson allegation is all out there. If you haven't yet, look up look it up on my channel, type in secular talk, Katie Johnson, and uh, you know, your mind will be blown as to the depravity of this man. Now, in 2016, she she had sued Epstein and Trump, right? But in 2016, she dropped the case. And the speculation was it's because there were threats. It's because there was there were threats. It was either massive payoff or there were threats. And so that went away. But that doesn't uh reflect on the truth value of what she claimed, and she had a very specific and detailed story which is consistent with other stories that have been told about Trump. Okay? Uh I don't even know. Do people even know that Mar-a-Lago was subpoenaed in the Golene Maxwell investigation? Because they thought that was the hub of the child sex trafficking, bro. They thought it was the hub of the child sex trafficking. Why is it that we know Jeffrey Epstein knew everything about Mar-a-Lago's financing, including uh mortgage fraud and money laundering? That Epstein brought this stuff up in his emails, right? Do people realize that there's a Jeffrey Epstein email from 2011 where he's talking to somebody and he says Trump is at his house with one of the victims? Which means there's pictures and videos of Trump with underage girls at Epstein's house from way before he was president, so they have this as blackmail, right? And then you look at the current state of uh geopolitical affairs and you go, huh. Well, this is probably used as blackmail over him to get him to do their bidding, because he would do anything to prevent those pictures and videos from getting out there. So this is uh this is crazy, bro. This is crazy. But the more you learn, the more horrible it is, and of course, you have in the White House situation room they're figuring out how to cover and obfuscate for their pedophile nipple torturing boss. None of them have a shred of integrity or morality or decency. They're all just involved in the cover up. Hey y'all, do me a favor and like and subscribe. It helps out big time in the algorithm.

SPEAKER_04 47:20

Vice President JD Vance uh went on the view, uh, and it did not go well. J.D. Vance has a very difficult job already trying to be the Trump explainer when it is very obvious that the president does not care about the midterms or anything else. He's more worried about submitting his legacy. J.D. Vance obviously is a somebody who converted from Protestantism to uh Catholicism and even got to where he tried to uh lecture the Pope uh on theology, which uh did not go well. But either way, uh this is J.D. Vance on the view, and the ladies of the view uh really came for him full-filt.

SPEAKER_03 48:07

But the Catholic faith says we take in immigrants, we take in people who don't have things.

SPEAKER_11 48:15

I'm talking about black history getting erased from public spaces, black voter districts are being dismantled, black leaders are being sidelined from um our ranks.

SPEAKER_14 48:24

I would urge you, as a Christian and as a father, to visit those detention centers where the children are being held.

SPEAKER_18 48:31

Vice President J.D. Vance was on The View, where he got chewed up and spit out by the ladies. So in this video, I got a few clips to uh share with you and some analysis, including on the reflecting pool. Just I'm gonna insert that into this video because it is so ridiculous what's been going on with the reflecting pool, and I haven't had the opportunity to discuss much of any of the insanity recently from Donald Trump because I find it so ridiculous that it's hard to even know what to say. But let me get to the first clip here. Here is uh JD Vance being asked about Trump's comments on inflation.

SPEAKER_13 48:59

President Trump has called affordability a hoax. He said that, not me. Uh he's pouring money into this ballroom of his and the reflecting pool. Oh, don't forget the Arch Trump A, I call it. And a White House cage, a White House cage match. All these things, why is he doing them? When when you you you just everybody knows that Americans are struggling. What is he spending all this money for?

SPEAKER_21 49:23

Well, I gotta defend the president on the hoax point. What the president said is the idea that Republicans cause the affordability problem is a hoax. And I think that's true. If you go back to the Biden administration, uh inflation got up to nine percent under the Biden administration, okay? Right now it's a 3.5 percent. By the way, too high. We're doing everything that we can to bring it back down to 2.5%, which is where most people would like to see it. But we inherited an affordability problem. We're doing a lot to make it better. It's gonna take a little bit of time. There's a lot more work to do, but the president knows that a lot of Americans are struggling. In fact, he ran on that, he talked about it, and we've done

JD Vance Faces The View

SPEAKER_21 50:00

some things and made some good progress on that point.

SPEAKER_14 50:02

Just said he loves the inflation.

SPEAKER_21 50:04

What he said, Anna, what he said is that he loves the fact that the inflation is gonna come down when this war is over. That's that's what he said.

SPEAKER_13 50:14

Are you his interpreter or are you his vice president?

SPEAKER_18 50:18

All right, so let's get to the reality of these comments and then we'll get to uh a few other clips where he gets armed up. But so before I even get to the details here, it's important to acknowledge that even if Trump is referring to inflation coming down after the war, the criticism here should be that he's the one who started the war for no reason. There was no reason to go to war with Iran. So the idea of you trying to defend Trump by saying, well, it's gonna come down after the thing that he created for no reason caused inflation is not a defense. But first, credit here to Aaron Rupar for cutting these clips up and sharing them on uh Twitter before the interview was uploaded to YouTube so I could uh analyze this whole uh piece of garbage before it went up. But let me get to the actual comments here.

SPEAKER_17 51:04

Uh, inflation number which came out this morning. Could that be a numbers were threaded by the same thing?

SPEAKER_12 51:11

You know what I really love? I love the inflation. You know why? Because as soon as this war is over, you know, I can say it now. Something in your nose. You know, we've been taking out millions of barrels of oil. Nobody knows if that's why it's $85 a barrel. I mean, you take a look. So when the war is over? Yes. It's coming down. I know you can't.

SPEAKER_18 51:39

Okay. So he's arguing that it's gonna come down after the war he started is over. Okay. Why is why is that the defense of what he's saying here? The issue is that he said, I love inflation. Who Trump says stupid shit all the time. I don't, who cares? What actually matters is the material impact of his actions. And the material impact of those actions is that inflation went up after he started a war that he didn't need to start. So JD Evans talks about, you know, in that clip, and he goes he goes on, about how, oh, we inherited this mess and we had to fix this mess. Here, when Biden left office, inflation was dropping. Of course, you know, the pandemic is the is the result of all of this. But you get here, Trump comes in, it's down, because he's benefiting off of the uh Democratic administration, and then once Trump does his shit, it's back up. That's Trump. And you know it's him because he himself is saying when the war is over, it's gonna go down. So he is admitting that his own war that he started for no reason is the cause of this. That is not a defense of what he's doing or what he's saying. So, on some of the other things mentioned there, so records reveal a $600 million estimate for Trump's ballroom project with half from taxpayers. So this came out early this morning in Washington Post. Their analysis found that, yes, indeed, half of this is going to be um paid for by the taxpayers. Here he is saying that's not going to be the case.

SPEAKER_16 53:08

We didn't ask for any tax money. We have no tax. This is taxpayer-free. We have no taxpayer putting up ten cents.

SPEAKER_01 53:15

Uh, this is all my money and donors' money. This is tax-free.

SPEAKER_18 53:22

And he goes on, you know, for a minute, saying the same lie over and over again. Well, here's the reality: by the time Trump made his comments in March, the federal government had already approved more than a dozen payments to the contractor overseeing the work. Clark construction, totaling tens of millions of dollars of public funds, according to a log of the contractor's invoices obtained by the post. It's in the own invoice. So he lied again. Of course he did. How can anybody possibly believe anything this guy says ever? What is even the point of trying to cover this band when it appears it doesn't matter that he lies so much? So reflecting pool time. This from uh the New York Times. Reflecting pool contract has inflated profit margin. Government analysis finds the firm that was given a no-bid contract to fix the troubled landmarks, and maybe a friend of his, is charging 20%. The typical profit margin is six to twelve percent. So overinflated, but don't worry, they're doing a great job. Uh New York Post, which is a right-wing paper sharing here, Trump's American flag blue reflecting pool turns green after LG takeover. Oh, great job, guys. Turned green immediately. Looks wonderful. Um, as Molly uh Pluvkins writes here, he didn't drain the swamp, he literally installed one. Here is Fox News. This made me crack up.

SPEAKER_00 54:43

I'm here at the newly renovated reflecting pool. It's painted American flag blue, and the Democrats are gonna tell you, oh, there's green algae, it looks so bad. But there's pool guys cleaning it up right now. No other president would do that, but President Trump is still cleaning it up. How's the reflecting?

SPEAKER_18 55:01

You can't kiss his ass any harder than that. Absolutely incredible stuff. So here they are cleaning it up, uh, dumping hydrogen peroxide apparently into the reflecting pool this morning. Um yeah, a couple of jugs are gonna do it. Uh so as uh Dr. Michael O'Brien writes here, uh not a not to be a huge nerd, but for the reflecting pool, you would need a minimum of about 8,000 liters of 12% hydrogen peroxide to reach the 50 parts per million concentration to kill algae. Is this what happens when you have zero scientists in your administration?

Taxpayer Money And The Reflecting Pool

SPEAKER_18 55:36

So, yeah, a few boxes there. Ain't gonna do the job, buddy. Um so insane. Here is J.D. Vance again. This is on Epstein.

SPEAKER_21 55:46

You know, one of the things you see in the Epstein emails is that Jeffrey Epstein hated Donald Trump, and that Donald Trump literally reported Jeffrey Epstein to the police. That's one of the things that came out of these.

SPEAKER_14 56:03

When some Republican women, Congresswomen like Lauren Boebert, like Marjorie Taylor Green, did not give in to his pressure of not signing. He brought Lauren Boebert into the situation room to pressure her into paving on not voting for that bill. So let me respond to that.

SPEAKER_21 56:17

So it's all true. Let me let me respond to that. So number one is yes, Donald Trump, and he said this. He knew Jeffrey Epstein back in the 1980s. He also threw Jeffrey Epstein out of his club when he found out he was a creep and reported him to the police. That's something that the media often misses when it reports the story. They tell the fact that they knew each other in the 80s, which the president himself admits. They ignore the fact that he narked on him to the police and led ultimately to Jeffrey Epstein's downfall. To that point, Anna, you know the Republican Party. Well, it's one of the things that led to law enforcement investigation.

SPEAKER_14 56:48

But on the point that you made it was allegedly over a real estate deal that they hadn't uh got into a fight over.

SPEAKER_21 56:53

But the email says, the email says actually know each other.

SPEAKER_14 56:57

Let's just be truthful and transparent here. They didn't just know each other. They were incredibly close friends.

SPEAKER_21 57:02

He reported him to the police. That's what I'm saying. That is objective, that is objectively true.

SPEAKER_18 57:06

All right, so Enavara is a pretty good job here, but I'm gonna add some more details to this story as J.D. Vance tried to skirt the reality of the whole situation. First, the idea that, oh, Epstein hated Trump. Let's just say that's true, which we don't know. That that doesn't appear to be the case, but let's say that's true. He doesn't say that Trump hated Epstein, and there's no indication that Trump hated Epstein. Again, they were friends for close friends for 15 years. There's many pictures of them together. This is back when people didn't have phones. I mean you had to bring a camera with you and take pictures. There are more photos of on film of Epstein and Trump together than me and my own family. Yet somehow we're supposed to be uh led to believe here that actually they hated each other. Absolute bullshit. Also, Epstein is on tape saying I was Donald Trump's closest friend. Notice here. He's not saying he was my closest friend, he's saying I was Donald Trump's closest friend. So maybe there's some truth to the fact that that Epstein didn't like Trump, as most people don't. But clearly Trump liked him. They were close, they hung out for decades. The idea that actually they hated each other is absurd. You also have here, if Trump was truly creeped out by Jeffrey Epstein,

Rewriting The Trump Epstein Relationship

SPEAKER_18 58:23

and that's why there is a big falling out, then why does he not mention any of that when asked about why they had a falling out? Like, listen to the listen to how Trump explains this and notice how he answers these questions.

SPEAKER_01 58:38

You're saying that Jeffrey Epstein coached two of your staffers. Who were they? Were they young saying two? Or I don't want to say it, and you took it about many years ago. But yeah, he took he took people by saying, Don't do it anymore. You know, they work for me. And he took uh beyond that, he took some others, and once he did that, that was the end of him. And people were taken out of the spa, hired by him, in other words, guys, and uh other people would come and complain this guy is taking people from the spa. I didn't know that. And then when I heard about it, I talked to him. I said, Listen, we don't want you taking our people, whether it was spa or not spa. I don't want to take in people, and he was fine, and then not too long after that he did it again, and I said, Out of here.

unknown 59:23

Mr.

SPEAKER_06 59:24

Cushid, did one of those stolen uh you know person that included Virginia Jeffrey?

SPEAKER_01 59:32

Uh I don't know. I think she worked at the spawn. I think so. I think that was one of the people that he stole her.

SPEAKER_18 59:42

I mean, again, this doesn't sound like somebody who was really disturbed by the discovery of what Jeffrey Epstein was doing. It sounds like somebody who was angry that his friend was stealing his employees. So, as PBS reports here, in 2019, the Washington Post reported about 2004 bidding war over a Palm Beach oceanfront mansion as driving a wedge between Trump and Epstein. The dispute happened months before Palm Beach police began investigating allegations that Epstein was sexually abusing minors. So, if in fact, as JD Vance points out, there Trump narked on him, as Ana Navarro pointed out, it was over a bidding war for a mansion that angered Trump because again, he thought this guy was his best friend. So Trump was clearly already aware of what Epstein was doing, and then after this dispute that they had, that's when he reported him to the police. It wasn't because he was disturbed after finding out what happened, it's because he was disturbed that his friend was trying to outbid him on a mansion. They also report, and to to further that point, this is 2004.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:45

Up until 2007, Epstein was still at Mar-a-Lago, so Trump barred Epstein and a big thing about that mansion is some of the background stuff is Jeffrey Epstein accused Donald Trump of only wanting the mansion as a way to launder money for a Russian. And if you go look it up, the mansion was laid later sold to a Russian army.

SPEAKER_18 1:01:39

Not because he was creaked out, mind you, but quote, the way this person described it, such an act could irreparably harm the Trump brand, leaving Donald no choice but to remove Epstein. So it's not that he was disturbed by by the harassing of a daughter of a teenage or a teenage girl at his at Mar-a-Lago. He was disturbed because how it could hurt his brand. And of course, in relation to that, potentially hurt the ability for maybe to him have other high-profile members at his club if this person told other people how Epstein was treating his own daughter. So again, this gets to a man in Trump who is an incredible narcissist, somebody who simply cares about himself and his brand. This is not somebody who is disturbed by what Epstein had been doing. Now, here is the last clip I want to share here. There's a few clips I put together here. It's really just uh the host of you completely uh dismantling JD Vance.

SPEAKER_10 1:02:36

Vice President, can I just add one more thing? Because you do speak of about immigration at at length in this book. And I believe as a Christian, I can tell my kids why it's important to have borders. I I get that. There are laws, there are resources, I get all that things. It's much harder to explain when I see someone dragged out of a house or wrongly taken to a it's a little more lost as a parent to try to say when someone's referred to as vermin or scum when I teach them in school about people that have done that before. But this is different. It's very hard as a parent and a Christian to say both things.

SPEAKER_14 1:03:10

And you're literally saying in the book, you you talk about this, you talk about this struggle, this internal struggle in the book, and you talk about moral trade-offs that result in favoring a strict migration policy without dehumanizing anyone. But listen, uh, over 50 people have died in ICE custody. There are thousands of children, 6,200 that are being held in places like Delhi Detention Center. The people that have visited those detention centers, I don't know if you have, talk about the subhuman, infrahuman conditions, the lack of clean water, the lack of medical attention, the lack of education. I would urge you as a Christian and as a father to visit those detention centers where the children are being held and make sure that they're poor in this country.

SPEAKER_21 1:03:58

So you guys have thrown a lot at me, and I see we've got 30 seconds left here.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:01

You come from a poor community. Sure. You know how hard it has been for people. Two things. You you talk a lot about your Catholic faith, but the Catholic faith says we take in immigrants, we take in people who don't have or who are having a hard time. Why did how do you justify both things? What did black people do to this administration that has allowed it to really stigmatize folks of color?

SPEAKER_21 1:04:38

You know, allegedly the administration is holding back the appointments of people based on skin color rights and the other.

SPEAKER_14 1:04:57

I think my view since October of last year, there's been something

Immigration Questions And Refugee Numbers

SPEAKER_14 1:05:05

like 6,668 refugees allowed into the country. All but three were white South Africans.

SPEAKER_21 1:05:14

So, first of all, I'm very I'm very skeptical of that number because we have a lot of different immigration pathways in the United States of America.

SPEAKER_18 1:05:20

He's skeptical of a number that is the government's own number, his government's own number. This is a government document, 6,668. I'll link to this below the video. This is why I did not show you all of his answers here to all these immigration questions. Really good jobs there by uh each of the the hosts on the view to uh hammering him on this, because there is no defense. Anyway, you can go watch the full interview below if you really want to see his answers, but he side skirts the questions. He doesn't give full answers or he lies. That I mean, that's his job to lie for the administration. That's why he's there. So just to be a little more clear on this number, as Mother Jones reports, since October first, The U.S. has accepted 6,668 refugees. Of those 6665 were white South Africans. Three admitted last November were from Afghanistan. No other refugees were admitted. All of them were white except three people. That's insane. So for a reference here, as uh Alex shared on Blue Sky, the US admitted 100,060 refugees in 2024. So, and by the way, this is not like this is not surprising what happened because this is a report from APO last year, in October of last year, Trump sets 7,500 annual limit for refugees entering the US, mostly white South Africans. So we knew this was this is happening. No, it's not surprising. But JD Vance, I'm skeptical of the number that we ourselves set as an administration on purpose. That he, of course, he knows about, but he is lying. Absolutely unbelievable garbage. There was also uh mention there of immigration or ICE uh uh taking round people up. So five percent, this is from the Cato Institute, this is a libertarian think tank, a right-wing think tank, but in support of civil liberties. Five percent of people detained by ICE have violent convictions, 73% no convictions. There is no defense of any of this.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:20

In the words of uh the the comedian Chris Rock, it's alright if it's all right. There's a defense of it. There's people who believe they're being replaced by minorities. I've read Roland Martin's book. I want to say the book was called White Rage, and it really goes through and synthesizing it and explains this. Again, that book was called White Rage, and that was by Roland Martin. Uh, we're gonna let this gang finish out. There's about 15 seconds left, and then we're gonna end the show. It's already run an hour and seven minutes, and I know how Antichins fans work. So at the end of hearing the rational, national David Dole's voice, we'll get some amazing songs from a national from a uh artist that I know locally, and we will see you on the next episode.

SPEAKER_18 1:08:06

Unbelievable how much of a piece of shit that man is. But uh good job for you know what they were tasked with of uh the host of the view for calling out a lot of it.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:19

Thank you for tuning in to the Darrell McLean show. Enjoy some music by Johnny Cardigan. See you on the next episode.

SPEAKER_17 1:08:31

What can we do to help make our kids safe?

SPEAKER_07 1:08:50

I shouldn't wait to convince this world's never changing, teenagers popping their pistols, killin', dealin' and stealin', joy away from their parents, brought them up to the teachers and preachers reaching for something, coming up empty handed. God damn it's family still standing, but y'all still standing on your hands, asking when will we become free? Never bridges burning the tree up down and downtown. Someone come and rescue me. Oh, someone come and stay beach.